Author Topic: E TRAC Target ID Guide. (Read 2754 times)

JewelleryRescue · « **on:** November 28, 2009, 13:35 »

Etrac Target IDs listing.

The purpose of this listing it to try and give all etracers some real life readings to try and help you see where targets IDS are. Take some time to look between various gold and sliver targets to note how they shift on size and gold quality etc.

Please Note All these listings are a guideline only conducted with an approximate air gap of 100 mm with the target laying flat (horizontal to the coil). Note air gap is slightly different readings to several soil and mineral ground types. Ie hard packed clay to salt water beaches.

Further note I also recorded detections of the target “edge on” (vertical, less surface area to detect) This dramatically change the stability of readings of smaller targets at 100 mm in free air. The targets registered as a beep but target ids where well off the 12.xx line at times I had to swipe coin several times to get a approx average reading.

The moral of this story is any fluctuating target reading you get maybe a small good target but on edge. Only experience will help you there. Try It yourself and learn.

All readings taken from my collection of finds. I encourage any one to add to this list and or plot it on an etrac display scale and present it on forum.

Targets IDs/sounds change with metal alloy content, with size, amount of corrosion, and shape.

   Horizontal Vertical Source
Platinum Rings 12:04 12:07
Platinum lizard 12:07 Eray

Silver
Silver plated Heart pendant   13:47
Silver ring with Stone thick 12:43
Silver Greenstone fine 13.41
Silver ring thin 12:41 Erratic
Silver ring Heart thin 12:43
Silver fine 12:29 13:26
Silver ring 5Gm 12:47 11:44
Silver Badge 12:38
Silver type Military Forces button - 12:32 CR

Silver 1g ingot 12:45 11:44
Cheap silver ring (markets)   12:44 13:48
Silver Three pence 12:32 11:33
Silver six pence 12:32 11:33
Silver heavy ring 12:42 13:44
silver english half crown -06:47 to 05:47 CR
Silver Fluorine 12:42 11:42
Coin Ranger
Silver ring - heavy - 07:48 CR
Silver ring - medium - 13:46 CR
Silver rings - light - 12:24 to 13:45 CR
Silver fob chain - 11:37
Silver tennis bracelet - 12:29

Gold 1 Sov - 12:30 Coin Ranger
Gold 22K 1866HalfSovereign. 12:21 Balf's CR.s coin
Gold ring 9K fine 12:09 11:07 cr
Gold ring 9K Heavy 12:20 11:24
Gold 9k medium 12:17 12:16
Gold ring 9K Chunky mens 12:07 Coin Ranger

Gold 9k fine wire 12:09 Hard to detect
Gold ring - heavy - 18kt - 12:20 CR
Gold ring - medium - 18kt w. platinum - 12:12 CR
Gold ring - medium - 9kt - 12:27 CR
Gold ring - light - 9kt - 12:21 CR
Gold ring - light - 18kt - 12:17 CR
Gold Men’s 9K 12:16 CR
Round Broach Gold Plated 12:12
Gold Tie clip 9k 12:05 11:04
Gold ring solid gold 18K 12:28 10:27
Heavy gold necklace 9K 12:14 12:14
Nugget 24Grms Large 10:37
Small Nugget 3.7Grms 12:27 Detrack
Small Nugget 3.3Grms 12:38 Detrack
Small Nugget 2.8Grms 12:31 Detrack
Small Nugget1.1Grms 12:24 Detrack
13 Small Bit 0.05grm 11:09 Detrack

Commemorative Medal 03-46 Detrack
Netball badge 12:30
Copper 'Australia' badge - 12:41 to 12:4 CR
Lauer toy penny - 12:18 CR

Copper scout button - 12:46 CR

Copper medalion - 12:43 CR
Galaxy game tokens 12:46
Ladies Fine watch 11:37 12:36
Silver colour ring 12:25 13:28

Pewter 60 mm Figurine 11:36
Pewter 65 mm Figurine 11:37

Lead Sinker
60mm Pyramid 11:40 11:40
40mm Pyramid 12:35 11:36
30mm ball 10:42 10:42
40 mm bean 12:35 12:35
10mm ball 12:36 12:36
5 mm ball 11:22 11:22
30mm star 11:39 11:39
20mm Tear 11:29 11:30
15mm bean 12:27 11:24
5 mm ball 12:11 12:11
Lead Bullet 12:34 12:36

MIXED ITEMS
Pull Tab (push-in) - 12:14 Coin Ranger
Pull Tab (beaver tail) - 12:18 Coin Ranger
AAA Battery 29:32 31:27
Foil 12:02 Various
Foil orchy lid 12:02
Aluminium angle 11.01
Pink dildo (left on beach) 28:32
Horse Bridle 12:46 14:44
Match box car 12:44 12:35
Ring unkonown 12:25 10:25
Marcasite Necklace 11:35 11:37
Copper bangle 11:41 11:41

OZ Decimal Coins
1c 11:38 13:35
2c 11:44 10:42
5c 12:07 11:07
10c 12:14 11:14
20c 12:24 12:23
50c 12:26 11:27
50c round (80% pure) 01:46 Coin Ranger
$1 (aluminium/bronze) 12:38 12:37
$2 (aluminium/bronze) 12:39 11:40
$5 12:46 Coin Ranger
$10 coins (various types) - 01:39 Coin Ranger
$1 'one ounce fine silver' coins - 01:39 CR

OZ Pre decimal

Half penny 11:39 12:39
Penny 12:46 11:47
Penny 1922 12-40 at 4'' in black wet soil Detrack
Cartwheel penny (1d & 2d) 03:45 Coin Ranger
Silver Three pence 12:32 11:33
Three pence (92.5% pure) 12:40 Coin Ranger
Three pence (50% pure) - 12:28 Coin Ranger
Six pence (92.5% pure) 11:41 to 12: Coin Ranger
Six pence (50% pure) - 12:36 Coin Ranger
Silver Shilling 11:42 5:47
Shilling (92.5% pure) - 11:46 to 12:47 CR Coin Ranger
Shilling (50% pure) - 12:40 to 12:42 Coin Ranger
ld silver english shillings - 12:45
Florin (92.5% pure) - 04:46 to 09:47 Coin Ranger
Florin (50% pure) - 12:45 Coin Ranger
Silver Florins 12:42 11:42
Crown (92.5% pure) - 01:40 Coin Ranger

Foreign Coins

English
Half Penny 12:32 11:32
Britanniar 1863 lady crown 10:47 Detrack

Singapore
1975 $10 11:46 3:48

Greek
10 Drachmas “copper nickel” 12:19 12:17
1986 20 D Panternon 12:22 12:33
20D Copper92% Aluminium 12:24 12:22
1976 20D copper 99% 12:46 11:49
1976 5D Copper 75% nickel 12:14 12:12

Malaysia
20 SEN 19 78’ 81’88’ 12:15 12:14
$1 12:15 12:14

French Caledonia
1 Franc 12:26 11:37
10 Franc “boat” 29:37 12:26
5 Franc Bird 12:27 12:26
50 Franc Hut 21:40 35:32

France
1968 20 Franc 12:26 12:28
5 franc 11:18 12:18
2 franc 12:43 11-40
1 Franc 01:29 nil

Fiji
5 c 12:09 11:10
10c 12:13 12:15

Portugal
1 Pataco     25:40 35:47
10 Avos 11:39 12:38

New Zealand
5 c 12:08 12:07
10c 21:14 12:14
$2 11:39 11:35

USA
1c 12:36 12:36
Dino 93’ 12:43 10:39
5c 85’ 12:13 11:12
Quarter 80’ 12:45 10:43

China Coin ?? 12:19 12:20

Dutch 90’ 28:34 29:36

DG Reg 33:45 29:42

Banjo · « **Reply #1 on:** November 28, 2009, 13:39 »

now thats a list JR

hope your well mate

Darren

Detrackozi · « **Reply #2 on:** November 28, 2009, 15:48 »

JR

I will print it out and keep it on hand while I am out.

Thanks

David

JewelleryRescue · « **Reply #3 on:** November 28, 2009, 19:10 »

Your welcome people.

There are several things we may note as a general rule from these figures.

1. Lead tends to start in the 11:XX range a lot

2, Gold 9K to 18K varies from 12:09 to 12:28. Plus plated gold tends to drift to 11:xx.

3 ) Most of the world coin s land on the 11:xx 12:xx 13:xx lines.

These figures are a starting guide only as you start detecting your own stuff you will see conditions will vary IDs, With time you wont need to carry a list around you will remember where on the display gold sits through to every ring tab in creation lol.

Any one with a more accurate set of in ground figures maybe for any particular target post them here I will edit the main list with them and add your name besides your figures.

When I get the time I will add other earier posts Etrac readings eg Balfs gold half 22K soverign.

Regards Tony JRA

Balf · « **Reply #4 on:** November 28, 2009, 21:32 »

Fantastic effort JR!!!......... thats probably the most definitve E-trac readings list I have seen , you have obviously spent a lot of time experimenting, thanks again mate.........................Balf

JewelleryRescue · « **Reply #5 on:** November 29, 2009, 00:23 »

No Problem Balf I promised to do this list some time back just to bit longer than expected between other jos that is.

Ok the list has just grown by back tracking a few posts.

Added Coin rangers IDs , Balf's Gold Soverign. and some nuggets from Detrack.

All ID enteries not my own have being acknologded with authers name.

So People keep those Etrac IDs flowing I will add them to the list.

Should any one not wish their info used there let me know no problem to take it out.

Tony JR

Coin Ranger · « **Reply #6 on:** November 29, 2009, 22:48 »

Great stuff JR. That will make constructing a worthwhile disc pattern a fair bit easier

Heres another lot from the mob I bought my detector from. Not sure how accurate they are ...

Pull Tab (push-in type) - 12:14
Pull Tab (beaver tail type) - 12:18
1c - 12:44
2c - 12:46
5c - 12:07
10c - 12:14
20c - 12:23
50c round (80% pure) - 01:46
50c - 12:28
$1 (aluminium/bronze) - 12:38
$2 (aluminium/bronze) - 12:38
$5 - 12:46
Half penny - 12:45
Penny - 12:47
Three pence (92.5% pure) - 12:40
Three pence (50% pure) - 12:28
Six pence (92.5% pure) - 12:45
Six pence (50% pure) - 12:36
Shilling (92.5% pure) - 11:47
Shilling (50% pure) - 12:42
Florin (92.5% pure) - 01:47
Florin (50% pure) - 12:46
Crown (92.5% pure) - 01:40
1/2 Sov - 12:21
1 Sov - 12:30
Cartwheel penny (1d & 2d) - 03:45

CR

Detrackozi · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2009, 14:56 »

Hi All

The 1919 one Penny we got this morning gave me a 12-40 at 4'' in black wet soil in a park at Yarraville Vic

David

JewelleryRescue · « **Reply #8 on:** December 02, 2009, 10:45 »

OK every ones target ids have being added to the main list trying yo keep list compact and real so wont add all data. But I think you agree I added most of your offerings

thank you.

In soil readings are useful as a guide to new etracers to see that there is a quite a jump between free air and ground readings.

Etrac Food For thought.
My back ground being electronics it might be worth noting that i am sure you will agree an etrac is calibrated to certain plus and minus specifications.

My point is if your machine is a plus specification and my Machine ended up with a minus calibration our machines will always be a couple of points different to each others readings lol even though they re both with in minelab specifications.

Detrackozi · « **Reply #9 on:** May 04, 2010, 12:01 »

Hi ALL

Can anyone tell me if these are the same Target ID for Gold Sov -12:30
Gold 22K 1866HalfSovereign. 12:21

that they have got if anyone has been lucky enough to find one I hav'nt been but out of all the gold I have found I would love to have one and are going to make it my main aim to find one before the years out.

Researching the most likly place I would find one so want to make sur the ET window is set for the ID.

David

Rwork · « **Reply #10 on:** May 04, 2010, 16:39 »

Lots of numbers to think about. Here are some more.Both half and full Sov. are 22k. 91.6% gold and the rest copper. Full weigh around 8gr. and half 4 gr. Most nuggetts around here if quartz free will show similar no's. Try leaving your coil on the ground and wave target above it over back.On mineralised ground it often changes the depth over normal air testing. Rwork

Coin Ranger · « **Reply #11 on:** May 06, 2010, 23:48 »

Some more readings (air scans). Due to a larger sample size readings are more varied.

1874 gold sovereign - 12:30 (checked - still reading the same)
1875 half sovereign - 12:20 (occasional 12:21 reading)
Note: Good repeatable readings from both sovereigns

Others

92.5% aust. florins - 04:46 to 09:47. Occasional 11:46 & 11:47.
50% aust. florins - 12:45. Occasional 11:42

92.5% aust. shillings - 11:46 to 12:47
old silver english shillings - 12:45
50% aust. shillings- 12:40 to 12:42. Occasional 11:39

92.5% aust. sixpence - 11:41 to 12:46
old silver english sixpence - 11:41
50% aust. sixpence - 11:37 to 12:36

92.5% aust. threepence - 11:40 to 12:41
old silver english threepence - 12:27 to 12:35
50% aust. threepence - 12:19 to 12:25

old english half pennies - 12:21
1911-1939 Half pennies - 11:36 to 12:35
1940-1964 - 11:37 to 12:45

old english half pennies - 11:36 to 12:31
1911-1936 pennies - 12:40 to 12:47
1937-1964 pennies - 11:46 to 12:46

Old silver english half crown - 06:47 to 05:47

Farthing, 1914 & 1909 - 12:27 & 12:33

Copper 'Australia' badge - 12:41 to 12:44

Lauer toy penny - 12:18

Copper scout button - 12:46

Copper medalion - 12:43

Silver type Military Forces button - 12:32

$5 coin (parliament house) - 12:44

$10 coins (various types) - 01:43

$1 'one ounce fine silver' coins - 01:39

Gold ring - heavy - 18kt - 12:20
Gold ring - medium - 18kt w. platinum - 12:12
Gold ring - medium - 9kt - 12:27
Gold ring - light - 9kt - 12:21
Gold ring - light - 18kt - 12:17
Silver ring - heavy - 07:48
Silver ring - medium - 13:46
Silver rings - light - 12:24 to 13:45
Silver fob chain - 11:37
Silver tennis bracelet - 12:29

CR

JewelleryRescue · « **Reply #12 on:** May 07, 2010, 11:44 »

Detailed and accurate work there CR Thanks for the up date. I agree with all the figures that I have also previously detected.

I have added most of that list to the main post with acknologment of you as the data source.

Definetly like seeing the values for some of the more uncommon items eg ten $10 coin and several other items of value not on the list.

Regards Tony JR

bluerob101 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2010, 11:15 »

Guys, I am interested to know how much variance you have found on the TID with air tests compared to actual goodies being buried?

Cheers.

neddy · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2010, 16:04 »

It seems the lower the conductivity number the less variace, $1 varies much more than a 5cent piece. Thats my findings found $1 coin varies from 35 to 41 conduct and 8 up to 16 ferrous. Sensitivity has alot to do with it the lower the better. seeya Ned

jeffaust68 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 24, 2010, 21:18 »

You guy's rock

this forum rock's

respect to the digger god's
will take all this on board and save for my next detector one with disc and notch
happy digger

this hobby is the only hobby that will eventually pay for it's self if only i can stop buying more gear
totally hooked

sorry for the dribble some times i try and imagine I'm a coin or ring when I'm hunting
and wander were would i hide or how would i get there ?

Be at one with the goodies i feel it helps to find them ? maybe

Razorback · « **Reply #16 on:** February 17, 2011, 21:41 »

What a great guide and to think all the time I was gonna spend running my coin collection under the coil to see the results.

Answers 2 big questions for me:

1. Should I dig anything other than 12:43 lol (answer yes for sure but Im already crying at the bottle caps)
2. Now I finally know what numbers to look for when Im hunting for pink dildos

THANKS!

AT Pro Guy · « **Reply #17 on:** September 23, 2011, 21:16 »

i read it twice, did i miss bottle tops screw type and crown tops? what number does that come up, also if u see my other post, iron corrugated roof rusted which might be rusted tin roof from 1940s

JewelleryRescue · « **Reply #18 on:** September 24, 2011, 08:19 »

Hi Jack
Screw bottle caps comes up at 12:39 ish very similar to $2 coins. The guide is mainly for good targets which is what most of us want to know about.

But I get why you ask about other. Simply scan the junk you find and you will soon know the reading you want.

JewelleryRescue · « **Reply #19 on:** January 07, 2012, 18:25 »

Found my first Plaladium Ring on a job it Reads 12:30 much like gold.