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G'day,
In the last few days I have been able to secure a supply agreement with a very well known UK Brand of metal detectors. They specialise in the good ole Knobs and dials machines and make some pretty powerful gear.

I noticed that many people are Unhappy with their machines performance on wet sand and went looking for a well priced, quality unit that could be used by Australians on the wet sand.
The C.Scope CS4PI seems to fit the bill.

Its a Pulse Induction Machine and very very simple to use. It has NO discrimination and is designed to go deep on the beach.

For more Information please use the link below, there is a great video review and your chance to get your hands on one of these Beach Machines in Time for summer.

I do have access to the entire C.Scope range but will be concentrating on the CS4PI First of all as I think a PI Detector designed for the beach at Under $600 is a good thing.
If there is a model of C.Scope that has caught your eye just get in touch and we can discuss your options.

My product Page:
https://detectorist.com.au/products/c-scope-cs4pi-pulse-induction-specialist-beach-metal-detector

C.Scope main site
http://www.csmetaldetectors.com/

Thanks all, Happy Hunting!

Clegy

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Hi Clegy,
You may like to point out that C Scope have been around for a fair while now. 
I started with quite a basic model ( can't remember model number) about 40 years ago back in the UK, and served me well.
I remember that I did have to send it back for repair, but the service was fast and retuned promptly, I should imagine that CScope have come a long way 40 odd years on.
Cheers, Notalot.
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Hi Clegy,
You may like to point out that C Scope have been around for a fair while now.
I started with quite a basic model ( can't remember model number) about 40 years ago back in the UK, and served me well.
I remember that I did have to send it back for repair, but the service was fast and retuned promptly, I should imagine that CScope have come a long way 40 odd years on.
Cheers, Notalot.

Thanks mate, Good Point. I did put that in some ads but I'll place that fact on the page as well.

C.Scope where very adamant that I provided good service as that is one of their core values. Lucky for me it's one of mine as well so nothing has changed as far as getting good service for c.scope owners.

Great Machines at a Good price.

Again thanks Mate.

Clegy
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Hey chaps... first post (of many, I'm hoping).

I signed up to do my due diligence on detectors before hitting the purchase button. I am literally days away from buying something... I just don't know what yet.

I was resigned to the fact that I would likely buy a VLF due to cost- my situation? My parents own a beach house on the central coast and I want to get into beach-combing primarily (to start). Dry sand- but I would like the option of wet sand, too.

My budget is $500 - $1000

After a lot of reading I had decided that a good all rounder would be the Fisher F44, and perhaps replace the coil with something a little better? But then I decided to have one last decent look around, a few days more homework \ reading and forum scouring...

For a total newbie is a VFL easier to use than a PI, or is it simply just a different skill to master?

I know, like most hobbies, there is likely not going to be a 'one size fits all' detector, and that if I get into the hobby seriously I will likely need more detectors and\or coils... but would a well priced PI- like this- be a wise investment over a mid-range VLF? I won't hold anyone accountable for my own choices, I promise. Just looking for someone to give a little direction :)

Now, I'm off to do the right thing and find this forums 'welcome' page before I get boo'ed off stage ;)

Cheers,

Ryan
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Welcome to the forum Mate, BOOOOOOO  LOL


With that budget I would be looking at either the Garrett 400i or Minelab 705. The left over cash is for an extra coil or 2. Not the best on wet sand but very capable every where else.

Great way to get into the hobby and not break the bank. Also easy to learn and will grow with you for a while before addiction kicks in and the $2 coin jar gets turned into something crazier.


Go see your Local dealer, probably got both of them on the shelf and see what you like.


Other way to go is look for a second hand excalibur or excalibur II if your dead serious on smashing the wetsand, probably get an excal ii pretty close to your budget second hand. Just check its been looked after and there is no sign of water getting in anywhere. Absoulutely useless in the park but super awesome on the wetsand and the wetsand is where it's at!

Hope that helps some mate and again welcome to the adiction and the forum as well.

Clegy



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Awesome, thanks for the welcome and advice, Clergy! I'll check out those models in store over the weekend- there's a place not too far away in Parramatta I think.

I look forward to joining you guys :D
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In your price range I would be looking at any of the minelab BBS or FBS detectors they  are the best for wet beach work with discrimination & equally at home in the dirt so you can have your beach & eat up the dirt as well  ;)
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Excalibur 2 absolutely useless in the park lol. Someone forgot to tell me so I found thousands of dollars with it there. Minelab fbs, BBS is what your looking for.
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The beaches and parks here on the Central Coast of NSW are pretty well worked over so you will need lots of luck.
I don't know much about a "dedicated beach machine" but as Clegy has mentioned a 705 I will say that I am pleased with my Minelab x-terra 705, it is easy to use, lightweight and  when I switched it on it was ready to go (straight out of box). Later you will probably use some of the settings to try and reduce the digging of trash. You will still dig tons of old bottle tops ( because they show up as $2 coins) as well as aluminium cans and ring pulls.
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Thanks all- I think the 705 is the way to go. I'm going to opt for the 'dual' package, just in case I ever want to try my hand at beginners prospecting.

I really appreciate all the honesty and input. It's obviously quite a lot to take onboard all at once, and I imagine there's going to be quite a steep learning curb mastering the machine itself- so thanks for putting me on the right track.

Next step is to scour the 705 section, read the free e-book and then- when the machine arrives- start at the beginning!

Cheers again- all the best,

Ryan
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I was resigned to the fact that I would likely buy a VLF due to cost- my situation? My parents own a beach house on the central coast and I want to get into beach-combing primarily (to start). Dry sand- but I would like the option of wet sand, too.

One more time  ;)   wet & dry sand + dirt, BBS-FBS minelab  ;)

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You can lead a horse to water FSHOO....
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Budget < $1,000?
What basic Detector has BBS or FBS?
It might be helpful to explain the difference to save a new member having to randomly search for an explanation about BBS and FBS whatever that means.  More experienced users would probably understand the technology but people like me do not. When I researched the 705 I saw nothing about BBS or FBS.
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G/Day Tallstock,

Have a good look around the ML web site there is heaps of info there including this  http://www.minelab.com/anz/knowledge-base/key-technologies 

The detectors that have BBS,FBS & FBS2 are ctx3030, etrac, Excalibur, safari, explorer & sovereign, may have missed 1 ?
They run multi frequencies & run smooth on the wet sand minimal falsing.

It's good to research most of the stuff yourself then you get a better understanding of what it's doing, having said that if you cant  find any info feel free to ask away in general chatter plenty of knowledge around on this forum & they will point you in the right direction.

When you decide on a few detectors make another post of your choices & the members can point you to the right one inside your budget & detecting areas you are thinking of hitting.

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Thanks FSHOO. Pete, I was trying to make things a bit easier to understand for the original poster ChrOnic who was looking at a Fisher F44 which is about $500. I made my decision many months ago and find the xterra 705 fills the bill as an all rounder. I think Clegy also suggested a 705 for ChrOnic which he should be able to get for less than $1,000. A CTX3030 might be the machine of your choice but it is way out of the original poster's  budget.
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Sorry Tallstock forgot who the original poster was  :-[   but for under a grand he should be able to pick up a nice explorer, safari or sov gt   but his money his choice, over & out.
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Even the Etrac's are selling second hand for under 1k now.  If you don't need a waterproof detector, would have to be the best allrounder in that price bracket.

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The 705 on the wet sand is pretty easy to set up.
You need to use the HF coil but I have had success also with the 3khz
Start with
Beach mode.
Do an auto GB
Sens as high as not to chatter.
Off you go.

Slow swing speed, the smaller coil (elliptical) will run stable and hit small targets if you slow.
Don't need to GB unless you hit the dry sand. As always I hunt AM mode, 99 tones.
Nb I run the 15in coils in hypersaline conditions up north and still hit targets well. Only the Excal kills it but you will expect that from a BBS machine.

On the dry you can go faster with swing speeds but will need to slow over targets to Id properly.

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Thanks Radar, most helpful. I will now have to try your settings. I hadn't thought to use the 18.75 coil at the beach on wet sand. Peter
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Remember not to submerge the 18.75 elliptical Tallstock, it;s not waterproof, wet and dry sand only, have fun.......cheers Colin.
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Thanks OL 56 for reminding me. I had forgotten .... and was waiting for the weather here to clear and then down to the surf.
I haven't, as yet, done much wet sand work with the standard concentric 7.5kHz coil.
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I was resigned to the fact that I would likely buy a VLF due to cost- my situation? My parents own a beach house on the central coast and I want to get into beach-combing primarily (to start). Dry sand- but I would like the option of wet sand, too.

One more time  ;)   wet & dry sand + dirt, BBS-FBS minelab  ;)

Thanks for the tip... I did find a really good site that told me all about BBS and FBS- it really came down to price, as well as my hesitation to buy things second hand. I did appreciate it, sorry I never replied- I had a crazy couple of work days.

Cheers everyone!
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The C-Scope CS4-PI is on the way and will be here in about 2 weeks,

Product details and pre-order is at the link below, any questions shoot me a PM or ask them in the thread.

This should be a good wetsand dedicated metal detector to add to your existing Kit.

As a LOT of VLF's are hopeless on wetsand and the FBS and BBS machines can be a bit pricey for a lot of people the price point is designed so you can have a dedicated beach machine AS WELL AS your current one.

Good reviews from the UK and being Pulse Induction it should give the wetsanders some depth that they are missing with VLF stuff.

Cheers Guys should be a fun summer this year!

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Just arrived and ready for Immediate delivery to your place.

PULSE INDUCTION Beach specialist that is priced and designed to be ADDED to your current arsenal as your psecialist beach machine.
FEAR THE WETSAND NO MORE!
https://detectorist.com.au/products/c-scope-cs4pi-pulse-induction-specialist-beach-metal-detector

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Hey! Clegy,
Do you know if you can submerge the coil without being detrimental to the C Scope? (Seawater)
Cheers,
Notalot.
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