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Offline ivanll

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Scoop handle ... a question of.
« on: October 13, 2017, 13:31 »
I chose sand scoops with 32mm handle tubes as it is the same size as the old Australian 1 1/4" shovel handle and therefore easy to obtain.

Some sand scoops will only take a 38mm handle, but I find hardwood handles to be heavy especially in the larger size. 
Fiberglass and Carbon fiber tubes/handles can be found on eBay but are costly, some are only 1m long and freight cost can also be unattractive.

A garden shovel with fiberglass handle can be found at most hardware stores, different brands different prices.

Since I'm only after the handle I'll go for the cheap one, so her is what I suggest on how to fit a 32mm fiberglass shaft into a 38mm tube, see picture.

A little luxury in the end that give a good grip, is to use a length of shrink tube, any colour you like but the clear one.

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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2017, 20:56 »
Over the years I have used 3 beach scoops,with both aluminum & Stainless steel shafts.
Most have either bent or broken.I went through a spell of various fiberglass ones as well .. these to eventually snapped.
For the past few months I have been using a treated wooden American Ash handle & it's great,much lighter too.Their not cheap but it fits the bill for my style of digging.
The trick with all scoop handles is not to use it has a prying bar or leverage tool.
I can still extract big scoopfull's of sand,the trick is to jiggle the scoop backwards & forwards gently so as to not place any stress on the handle and then retract the scoop slowly.
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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 00:35 »
Replace wood in fibreglass handle with aluminium or stainless tube.Wood  swells weakening fibreglass and isn’t long enough on the ones I bought (post hole digger) Ally tube off kids scooters fits mine perfect if your into recycling.
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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2017, 14:14 »
My scoops have been really used and abused and I have broken plenty of handles. To get around that problem I brought the hollow fibreglass ones from Bunnings that fit, then get one of those bamboo replacement broom handles, you will find they slip inside the fibreglass with a nice snug fit.
This will give strength and just enough flex without breaking. Have had the same handle now for 2 years and it it still going strong.

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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 09:51 »
Spot on Radar1966.

I apply a liberal amount of silicon sealant on both ends of the broom handle before inserted to seal it in place and keep it dry.

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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2017, 12:49 »
I acquired a s/steel scoop a little while back with fixed stainless handle and recently had to drop it off for repairs.  It developed a split just above a rear reinforced section where the handle joins the reinforced rear section of the scoop which threw me a little as usually I have had splits at the front (considering the lever action on the handles).  I guess that compression on the rear section from the lever action weakened and created the split  and the front flexed so now it is get re-welded as well as additional sections (plates) welded on the sides to try and prevent this from happening again (at least in the same section) for a cost of $50 which I guess isnt bad.  Will see how long it lasts once I get it back.
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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 22:10 »
I tried a fibreglass handle in my scoop which lasted a while but then broke the wooden inner which I couldn't get out to fix it up. I then bought a trench shovel that was on sale and cut the spade below the handle and then was pleasantly suprised when the socket of the scoop went up under the metal on the handle after I cut a split in it to accommodate the back brace. 3 hose clamps around it and it is going great. It is heavy but can sling it over my shoulder to carry it no problems.
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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2017, 14:34 »
For those that require extra strength beyond a 1/3 length snugly fitted wooden broom handle within the lower section of the hollow fiberglass handle.

Solid core fiberglass handles.

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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2017, 20:42 »
No wood, Stainless Steel only.Lasts forever.
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Re: Scoop handle ... a question of.
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2017, 17:26 »
No wood, Stainless Steel only.Lasts forever.
I can not use SS handles... Acts like a big RFI antenna 
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