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BLISSTOOL
« on: February 26, 2012, 11:48 »
Open session beach outing.



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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 16:39 »
Oh this Blitstool :D :D

Have been following it lately and gathering as much info and this is a personal opinion on what i have learnt, discovered and understand from reviews on this new detector.....Internal Pictures, circuit board, user manual and videos etc.........i have seen them all.

Never used one but my opinion is by taking all the facts presented so far and coming to the conclusion that this is nothing special but a previous engineered V.L.F detector boosted up with every knob possible which has been made user adjustable. ;) ;)

I hate to say this, especially those who may have purchased one already, but this detector is not much different to the $85.00 dollar Kmart special i have been using for coin/relic hunting.......The only difference is that a quality constructed/shielded 11" and 15" coil is supplied in a DD format and more knobs than 747 ::) to combat every field situation.

Dont discount me on the performance, it has been shown to work above expectation and i would expect it to do so as the Kmart special does the same job, same audio tone, same recovery speed, but less depth.......mainly due to the 8" coil size and lack in quality CHINESE manufacturing.

I definitely wont be buying one......If i had the time i would construct a 11" DD for my Kmart special and with a few mods and extra external knobs i may be able to make it perform just as good as the Blisstool. Might give that a try someday when time permits.

Oh well, time will tell when other's see eye to eye with me on this one. :) :)

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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 16:47 »
Think I'll pass too

Too many knobs for me ???
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 17:40 »

Too many knobs was my first impression too! :(
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 20:14 »
Apparently there are people that have purchased them in Australia that are very happy according to Blisstool. I asked them if those customers were contactable to talk to & see the detector, no details forwarded. Shame though I would have liked to have a squiz.
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 21:37 »
A bit more to add.

I have no problem with its repeated and documented performance on the net........Its just that if i were to re-label it as a boosted up GC1023/Md1023,.... everyone will laugh at that suggestion. That's why the performance of my Gsnoop is good.......It does the optimum job for its 8" coil and delivers the goods. A 11" coil on my Chinese unit will be on par with the Blistool. :D :D

I am happy someone has decided to advance such a simple but reliable circuit design and refined its operation to the best of its ability with every combination made adjustable to the user.

It's like this, which i might sound confusing, but will try to explain.........

You could buy the latest high end Icom, Kenwood or Yaesu Two way radio.....If you dont configure those radio's to the best antenna coil match, then you might as well use a cheaper quality brand radio with a good matched antenna........as it will do the same job as the high end one does with a crappy aerial/coil and at a cheaper price....This is where some Chinese units fail...(The Coil) :(

It just seems people are fooled into buying something that has many knobs, therefore it seems superior to anything on the market..........It's not.....It is a similar design to Goldsnoop (look at the circuit board) with the exception of the many adjustable knobs and the larger and better designed coils.

It's a 8 khz machine that chatters and burps due to optimum settings adjustable from user on those videos shown.....

The fact that no other detector has been designed in such a way with so many knobs......well maybe this is the ultimate V.L.F on the market to date.

No problem with that, because no Manufacturer in the past has ever adopted this option with so many knobs. I see the good points about these features.

Because every site and different environments on this earth demand different settings to suit the conditions....This is where the Blistool runs supreme and will help user's when they are stuck in a un-detectable environment scenario.

Not knocking it back, actually i like the concept and the fact someone thought outside the box on a simple but effective design........than what is typical of the major Manufacturers who would not even consider this path, due to financial reasons and future viability of the Company.....i can understand that. Time has caught up in a ultimate V.L.F after 30 or so years.

I can say this......From video demos this has to be the most effective and versatile V.L.F on the market with all those dials to be released to date. I would also say that this detector would be suited to the seasonal experienced operator.......Price not to bad either, do not know about quality though......time will tell...

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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 23:48 »
Hi Guys.

Well in the early 80 ts. their was a detector brought out for the gold fields made here in Australia and had plenty of nobs to twidle  with and their were plenty of nockers that said it was no good. The detector was the Bridge Wright and a ripper of a detector if you new how to set it up. I met a new chum in Wedderburn Victoria only a young buck in his 20s who had bought one and he was staying in the caravan park a couple of doors up from my camp as i had been their 3 months and at that time finding my keep. He did not have a clue how to set it up as he had been their for a a couple of weeks he was ready to rap it round a tree. As i was looking for another detector i had been in touch with the developers of the detector as was conversent with the principals of cordinating the secequences to set up the detector to its best advantage. So i caught up with this young guy and took him under my wing and we went to a good spot that i had found a couple of ounces and set it  up and found gold . And this young guy then went from strength to strength and did very well for him self .

So i wouldnt start knocking the Blisstool  till its proven. Some  guys get in the head that their detector they are using is the ants pants without trying other brands. Every detector has different qualities in the way they are used and some people should not be using them if they cant get them to be a extension of the arm in cordination with whats between your ears .


You really have to sleep with your detector and try it in every method you  know  till you know your detector in side out. I am definetly looking at the Blisstool as what i seen apart from them not using gpxs against the brisstool as using the Whites tdi, The Deus, e-track,
Whites p.i, Sovereign G.T. with the 15 inch wot. Excallabur and a few others. It is a specialliaty detector for certain types of detecting,it is Not a beepa that you would put up against a e-track or a Whites v3i or a fisher f75se. for generall park hunting in heaps of rubbish its not made to use in these situations. For the gold fields here in oz thats another story only time will tell.

What the hobby of detecting is all about is finding the best tool for the right situation and that might mean you might buy a brummy but you have to try . If it is a screamer then you have kicked a goal. One other thing Blisstool is making coils for the v3i and a few guys in oz have got them and they are getting plenty more depth.



Regards Beepn. with the v3.
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2012, 15:11 »
All I could hear comming from the Bliss was ground noise. I am certain my old Sov would eat it alive.
The machine was very unstable and was not Ground balancing very well from what I could hear.
The bloke was swinging it in an arc over the target Not flat across the ground and that was what was causing the signal. Out of balance ground noise.
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2012, 23:56 »
Wish I could take you up on the offer Ivanll.
My total detecting time for this year is about 6 or 7 hours. Just a few years ago i could literally detect for 6 or 7  hours straight non stop no food no water but now I am lucky to go 15 minutes without stopping to rest.

Are you saying that the bliss tool is OK? I realy thought it sounded very noisy in the youtube clip and that the tester was not all that impressed with it? He was constantly fiddling with the controls trying to get it to settle down.
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 21:52 »
He he, Ivanll, I am still laughing about that analogy 6 hours after I read it!   ;D
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 13:19 »
I'm still sitting on the fence with this one.  ::) Only time will tell.
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2012, 21:09 »
Certainly got my attention!

I agree with beepn!

I would most definitely consider getting one.

Thanks ivanll
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2012, 20:44 »
Hi Ivan are you able to post the settings you use on the beach please.

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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2012, 17:09 »
Hey Ivanll,

Thanks for the feedback.

I was looking at a youtube comparo how various VLF's and PI detectors and the Blisstool would run on very mineralised soil in the US.

I was quite impressed with the results.

i was also equally impressed on how the v3 was able to sniff out gold chains where some of the popular brands could not.

I am seriously considering this Blisstool detector. Best case in the next few weeks!!!

thanks again mate.  :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2012, 04:13 »
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 12:12 »


Very impressive video , I must say though when they show a close up of the settings it blew me away with all the dials etc.   :)
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2012, 18:10 »
Well after visiting a few forums and checking opinions re the Blisstool and I am having difficulty getting a straight answer as to just how good or bad this machine is.
So ! does it work well in salt water compared to say an CZ 21 or Sov or BHID?  Has it got good discrimination while retaining depth  in the disc mode on salt beaches?
Is the vlf mode any good in iron mineralised ground?. How long will it operate on a single charge ? Does it hold tune? Does it scream at you when changing modes?  What frequency does it run at? Does the Auto GB actually work or is it just an auto retune?
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2012, 18:16 »
Adrian,

your answers to your questions are on the blisstool Website and also have a look at the Blisstool USA you tube videos.

http://blisstool.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
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They'll answer some of your questions too.
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2012, 06:52 »
I guess to have made up your mind Adrian.


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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2012, 07:52 »
Heard a rumour that if you decide at a later date to buy a second coil for the bliss then the machine has to go back to the manufacturer because each detector is matched to its coil and that a coil from one machine will not necessarely work very well on a another bliss.

So if you buy the Bliss then order your second coil at the same time.

Same situation with coils for the Tesoro  Lobo ST.
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2012, 06:34 »
I have bought and have recently got my Blisstool and a mate has used his along side me while i used the ET or the CTX on Roman sites and other sites and he has found coins with it . He used it on the sandy beaches at Bournemouth England and found Gold rings too.
At the moment i have not had the time to use the Bliss on land as i dont go out to land often now but will when i can.
Its not for the beaches i do as the beaches i detect are stonny and very trashy. Its hard enough with the ET.
Also my Mate says he has sorted the ground balance issue and he uses a ferite ring to ground balance it but i know nothing about that, not had the time to get into it yet.
I have heard the idea that the Bliss is a reworked Fisher from old times but as far as i am concerned if it does the job i dont care if its a reworked Tandy :D
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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2012, 10:58 »
In this area some Blisstool owner/users are accommodating and open for contact  :D   :D   ................ but!



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BLISSTOOL
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2012, 11:09 »
Ha ha ha


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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2013, 18:10 »
Had "BT" percolating this AM.............................again. :)



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Re: BLISSTOOL
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2013, 19:36 »

Did you find anything??   ???
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A note from Blisstool in USA and Bulgaria.

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