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Metal Detectors Brand specific discussion => Nokta => Topic started by: Nokta Detectors on November 28, 2014, 02:00

Title: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on November 28, 2014, 02:00
Nokta team received the following message and images from a FORS Gold user in AU and we are sharing them with you.
''Up at the old gold fields in Slatey Creek Creswick, vic.
1st time to actually use this baby since buying from Brad at Aussie Detecting in Bendigo.
The Nokta Fors Gold has suprised me big time. It actually picked up these 2 small nuggets that were under neath some metal trash roughly 25 inches in the ground.1st time out and one very happy customer. Well done Nokta this machjne lives up to its reputation. Thanks, Thomas. Australia.''
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: junker on November 28, 2014, 10:42
May be a typing error :) , I think 25mm is more realistic :o for a VLF .
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on November 28, 2014, 10:53
May be a typing error :) , I think 25mm is more realistic :o for a VLF .
I'm with you there. I'll verify with him. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on November 28, 2014, 11:11
Seen on a US Forum. :o

If they did the same over here, that might stir some interest. :P  8) :P  

ivanll
Maybe another time Iavnll. We have our Christmas deal set now.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on November 28, 2014, 11:18
I've just spoken with him & he has said his measurement method, rough as it is, was in fact 25". What can I say? We can only go by what we are told. In my mind it's a depth that is a new level achieved by this detector or he's got it mixed up. I can't answer it as he has told me what he did & his conviction in what he says. I know there will be judgements on this, I expect it. But if it's what he says & has done, well unless we were there, who's to say yay or nay?
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on November 28, 2014, 22:38
Hello all..the customer made a typo...it should be cms not inches...
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on November 28, 2014, 22:46
Yes. After talking to Tom & actually getting him to take a tape measure to the hole, it became apparently clear that his error was in texting. Sorry guys for the confusion. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: junker on November 29, 2014, 00:37
Now that is believable , certainly was sus at 25 inches ::) , 250mm I would believe :) .
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: scratchinaround on November 29, 2014, 01:25
  gone  fishing.  it  was  this............ big. ;)     got  the  depth mixed up ?   common sense  would tell anybody  that was    impossible.Why  post it  when   anyone  should know  better ?  A  GPX5000 couldn't  do  that.   loan them out, let  the  real prospectors  tell the story.  no  REAL   evaluations  so far.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on November 29, 2014, 07:35
I sure would like to know what settings he used , cause I couldn't get a 1.2gr with the fors gold at 7cm that the SDC2300 got straight up and I tested the fors with all 3 coils and different settings all over the same target before I dug up , Once the target was out of the dirt it had no problems at all seeing it with all 3 coils 
I'll do my report over the weekend if I get the time 
Marty
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on November 29, 2014, 15:01
The review has been sent to Dilek it will be up to him to post it 
Cheers Marty
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Stalker on November 29, 2014, 17:36
I want to know we're those two tiddlers in the same 10" deep hole ..ide like to see more info in a feed back , not just a pic , 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on November 29, 2014, 18:50
Marty. I just spoke to Tom. He said that settings he used were

Mode: DI3
Sens: 80
Iron disc : 20
He also said that the gold gave a TID of 23 while it was in the ground. Out of the ground the TID was 53. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on November 29, 2014, 18:56
ok now that makes a lot more sense now , as you know the low grunt is more or less from 0 to 35 or there abouts and because of this only a few targets around 20 were dug and all those turned out to be iron , the rest of the settings were pretty close to what I was using , better head out again soon then 
Marty
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on November 29, 2014, 20:46
Trevor its more like I'm being polite about it before posting my findings, like I said from the beginning I'll post it how I found it to be , I was just running by them 1st nothing more nothing less
I'm also with you a sub gram nuggets at a depth of 25cm, even my old Gold Bug couldn't have done that and the CTX, I doubt would have gone anywhere near that as well but if the readings are completely wrong from air to in ground to what is suggested in the manual, than a little more investigation is warranted don't you think?
Marty
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: The Catseye Cleaner on November 30, 2014, 13:40
Maybe he got the signal from the iron junk, dug a hole and discovered the tiny nuggets in the soil he dug out. That might account for them being in a pan with water. Couldn't find them by eye so panned the spoils and they turned up. Being a newby he may honestly believe the signal he got was from the gold.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: The Catseye Cleaner on November 30, 2014, 20:37
Mmmmm! Well?
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on November 30, 2014, 20:50
What's wrong with it? Garrett do it with Vaughens finds. Why can't we? 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on November 30, 2014, 21:49
That'll be Nokta & ourselves to decide what deals are put in place. The Black Friday deal that was in the US is something we will discuss after Christmas. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: scratchinaround on December 03, 2014, 03:01
  Ever  heard  of  the ''truth in advertising'' law ?  be  aware  in  future  claims  and  postings !
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 03, 2014, 07:22
Considering it was a customers feedback & he made a mistake, it's not a advertisement. But thanks for the insight. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 03, 2014, 12:01
Why Ivan. If you did purchase a Fors Gold you will receive a pin pointer anyway. The offer was a joint decision between myself & Nokta.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 08, 2014, 09:38
Where did this offer come from and who made it  ??? .........I might just have to submit a post as a challenge to se what will happen. :)


ivanll

Ivan, I'd love for you to submit a post, however you will have needed to have purchased within Australia as per the post on Facebook. 

Could you explain more about your integrity test please?
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 08, 2014, 19:42
We have asked the testers to just not get out there & not learn the detector. To take their time & get to know it. I think that's fair. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 08, 2014, 23:08
I hear what your saying. I spent ages without finding gold. Then the new guys get gold. Well good on em. Beginners luck is with them. So well done to them. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 09, 2014, 10:41
So where was your Fors Gold purchased? According to my dealers they have no idea who you are? The Fors CoRe on eBay was purchased through myself. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 09, 2014, 11:39
Excellent. Good luck with it Ivan. I just hope you can keep our differences out of your opinion of the detector. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 09, 2014, 18:34
Hello all...want to say a few words. The reason Nokta started to sponsor this forum was not to get into debates or make sales pitches. The main reason was to introduce our products and our company to those (I am underlining this part) who are interested. As we respect all competition and all opinions, we ask for the same. Detectors are very subjective machines as it all depends on the need of a user. Now I can send you the links of many posts in other forums where people are writing that this is the best VLF detector they used.  A user here is saying that it is a heavy machine where another user just posted the following on another forum : ''the machine just wants to hang on your arm like a feather seems like. I actually have less fatigue with this as compared to yes, the other machine. Just might be the most solid made machines on the market that has passed through my hands, build is second to none on that note. ''  And as you can imagine, the product weighs the same in each country so it is all subjective just like with any other machine in the market. 
Now regarding the reviews, I asked Marty to use the machine for a while as he was comparing it to a PI which is not a fair comparison. He will take other VLFs with him on his next trip. We are expecting the second review to be up in a few days. 
Nokta is a very professional manufacturer, not a seller and I am repeating that the only reason we are here is to support people who are interested while respecting those who are not. 

Dilek - Sales & Marketing Manager 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 09, 2014, 19:10
On a different note - the third reviewer's mom just passed away (our condolences) so his review will take a little longer ...
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 09, 2014, 19:34
Ivan of course you have all the right to post here or elsewhere ... We are a very customer oriented company. We listen to our customers and we act upon their feedbacks. All I am trying to avoid is to turn this forum into an endless ''who is right or wrong'' type of argument and lose the main focus of this forum which is to provide information to customers about our products and company, support those who are currently using our products as well as listening to them. And we want all this done on a very friendly and respectful manner. This is all....so all is good...
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Stalker on December 09, 2014, 21:45
I would still like to see these tested in western Australia ,, 
I'm not interested in reading a review on a detector that was trialed  in another country , soils ain't soils ,,,   if it works in Australia it'll work elsewhere around the world , then maybe I'll pay a bit more attention to the product that's on offer ,, other than ivans post I don't see any other real reports yet that convinces me that these detectors are capable in our soils or any better than " the other one "   ,,,time will tell  ,, so I'll wait for more info to come to light  , thanks ivan for your views look forward to more, , also looking forward to marty's review, , 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 10, 2014, 10:00
Yes he would have found it heavy with the large coil. It's fair to say he would have handed it back pretty quick. Did he try the small coil? On that ground it will overload when the coil hits the ground. That's some pretty magnetic ground. 

"As the post with large/loud fonts above indicates..... "Nokta is here to support people who are interested".....so make use of that support!"

I'm offering my support. Trying to help you & other customers.

Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 12, 2014, 18:04
Thanks for your feedback Ivan. It's an interesting idea for it to be calibrated to our coins.  I'll pass it on to Nokta for their consideration. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 12, 2014, 19:12
Good/Bad info depending on who is reading and making use of the info.
Jack Flynns observation on the FORS CoRe Feedback thread with regards to TID numbers reading the same 85-82 on bottle caps, dime or (US) penny

is dead on correct.
Not so good news is our $ coins, beer bottle caps and aluminium screw caps on the FORS Gold also read in the vicinity of 82-85.
You can have a peek in the ice-cream container from my FORS Gold beach outing.

Is this Nokta knocking ??? take it as you like....this is TID info relayed straigh of the screen.
I would like to see the FORS models sold in Australia be calibrated to our coins and condition......then perhaps buyers/users here would not
sell them after only a short time of ownership........said in another straight on way, it would be a most pleasant beneficial upgrade.
I do recall GMC not wanting to release the Garrett AT Gold before it had some suitable improvements mods for Oz.........good on them.


FORS Gold customer feedback from AU.!

ivanll  




/quote]


 Hello ... can we please learn the model of the detector that gives a different ID for bottle caps?

FORS depending on the type of cap and the orientation of it underground will give a blended high low high tone which helps experienced users to identify them.
In addition, can you please not make generalizations such as ''then perhaps buyers/users here would not sell them after only a short time of ownership'' and mislead people?
As I have stated before, detectors are very subjective. The same detector can be liked or disliked by different users. It all depends on what your needs and expectations are as well as how well you operate the detector. And this applies to all brands in the market. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 12, 2014, 19:41
No need to thank me.
A good importer would have tested the product they want to sell to the public considering they regard themselves to be in a "Position To Know"
They should have made sure the product be compatible with our conditions and thereby competitive with other brands, hence also the reason to have authorised Testers.
It should not be up to the customers that pay for their own equipment to give feedback on failings......except some voluntary happy/positive ones after a good hunt.
ivanll

Ivan, first of all Aussie did test the detector. Second - FORS is very competitive with other VLF detectors and actually much better than most of them.  We, as the manufacturer know our product very well and we stand behind it. And as far as the customer feedbacks we will go with what the majority says ( and I am referring to almost 100% here) which is all positive. We never ask people to buy our detector to give feedbacks. The ones that were sent for testing based on request were sent free. Now, you may personally not like the detector (and we would really respect that ) or have other reasons of your own to criticize each and every single post we make but then again you are misleading people by comments such as ''failure''. There is no failure in the detector. If there is something wrong with your detector, believe me Nokta will take care of it faster than any other company you have dealt with because this is what Nokta is all about. Now, I feel like there is personal tension here between members here and if this is the case, please keep it outside of this forum.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: scratchinaround on December 12, 2014, 19:49
 I  have  followed this topic with great interest, as I for one, would very much like to  see  a better product  released  for metal detecting, something with actual '' new'' technology and at a reasonable price.   Obviously  for  the product/s to be successful, these must be able to accept the mineralisation found here. I see it simply as a matter of they do, or don't. It is no more complicated than that. The longer the controversy drags on, the more adverse  opinion this will create. I  assumed that the people that volunteered to test your product were not asking for free, donated units - charity. Further, these people are relatively well known to the detecting community and could be relied on to submit the required un-biased report/s, of  which I am sure, is Nokta's objective. Three  ''testers '' are mentioned,but I am only aware of Mary, so who are the other two ?  Finally, as far as I understand an '' un-biased opinion/report should not need to be vetted by  the  product's company/ spokesperson. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 12, 2014, 20:09
Yes Marty is one. The others, Robert Crampton from Crampo's prospecting supplies & the other Shaun Taylor. 
Robert is half way through his review & sadly Shaun's mother passed away last week, so his is on hold for a little bit. 
These testers / reviewers were selected by myself. They are purely independent from myself & as Marty can vouch, we have not known each other until now. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: scratchinaround on December 12, 2014, 23:12
It  all sounds so difficult, and complicated.  How long does it take to learn  to use a  Nokta detector, are they that complex ?
Condolences  to  Shaun for his sad loss, of course.  I agree  with Ivanll, the distributor of a product should know about  the product and have tested it  to answer  any  customers queries. you  are in a perfect  location,  to do so .  In my opinion, W.A. is probably  asking to much from a vlf unit, from what I have read, and understand. Dragging out  a conclusion does not inspire consumer confidence. A comparison with a  current  Fisher Gold bug  model and ATpro gold should be a fair appraisal. The  AT PRO gold was  apparently calibrated to suit our soil conditions, which is only simple logic, has Nokta done the same ? If so, the controversy  is re-solved. Surely  Nokta  can  verify  this point. I still believe the testing should have be done by people that are known on this and other Oz forums and have the ability to report accordingly.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 13, 2014, 00:28
It  all sounds so difficult, and complicated.  How long does it take to learn  to use a  Nokta detector, are they that complex ?
Condolences  to  Shaun for his sad loss, of course.  I agree  with Ivanll, the distributor of a product should know about  the product and have tested it  to answer  any  customers queries. you  are in a perfect  location,  to do so .  In my opinion, W.A. is probably  asking to much from a vlf unit, from what I have read, and understand. Dragging out  a conclusion does not inspire consumer confidence. A comparison with a  current  Fisher Gold bug  model and ATpro gold should be a fair appraisal. The  AT PRO gold was  apparently calibrated to suit our soil conditions, which is only simple logic, has Nokta done the same ? If so, the controversy  is re-solved. Surely  Nokta  can  verify  this point. I still believe the testing should have be done by people that are known on this and other Oz forums and have the ability to report accordingly.

To answer your questions - they are simple to use unless you are very new to the whole metal detecting concept. 
FORS is a VLF detector and will handle mineralized ground conditions much better than many other VLF detectors or equally with certain models in the market. And when comparing FORS to those that handle the ground equally well, the customer will evaluate other features such as depth, ergonomics, ease of use, coils, other features, price etc etc and make a decision. Simple is that...Now, as a manufacturer, we cannot compare our detector to other brands as it would not be ethical.  It should be done by people who own both detectors. And regarding the testers - we had no choice but to get assistance from our dealer as it is impossible for us to know the people on AU forums that you are referring to. At least at this stage...
 
 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 13, 2014, 00:32
There is some easy to follow FORS instruction video on line, if you have to order a FORS and wait a few days for delivery then watch the video while waiting and you should know how to use it when it's in hand.
I would say it's dead easy to use, but it might be seen as I'm saying it's unsophisticated, so I say NotHing.
However having it all together for a test in the back yard the first question is very likely to be about pinpointing and the dept indicator.
There is a post on a forum out there someplace that explain what the dept indicator is used for, or ask your friendly reseller he might know.

Approximate depth is provided based on the assumption that the target is a 2,5cm coin size object. The real depth will vary based on target size. The device will give a greater depth reading for smaller targets and for larger targets, the depth reading will be smaller than they really are. In fact, pinpointing is used for target location and not depth indication. Therefore, we suggest that you use the depth reading for judging the proximity of the target. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: scratchinaround on December 13, 2014, 03:58
so  no.  not calibrated for OZ soil conditions. blah blah blah. answer the question, too hard ?
yes or no ?  you never address a direct question. I conclude - not as good as fisher  bug, at pro gold, as you have no  proof other wise. over 3 year  since you listed on this forum, no un-biased supportive reviews  in that time. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 13, 2014, 08:41
The Fors Gold has been calibrated to AU soil conditions. In direct comparisons it's as good as the AT Gold & Gold bug DP or G2. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 15, 2014, 18:47
so  no.  not calibrated for OZ soil conditions. blah blah blah. answer the question, too hard ?
yes or no ?  you never address a direct question. I conclude - not as good as fisher  bug, at pro gold, as you have no  proof other wise. over 3 year  since you listed on this forum, no un-biased supportive reviews  in that time.

Hello...your question was answered in detail ...more than a simple yes. 
In regards to your comment of ''over 3 year  since you listed on this forum, no un-biased supportive reviews  in that time. ''- 
We have been posting on this forum for the past few months only so we cannot speak for what individuals have been posting or saying about our company and detectors. We introduced our company and products to AU officially on the forums starting with FORS because this is the product suitable for AU and the first tester's review has been posted on the forum. Thank you. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: ANT1967 on December 15, 2014, 19:37
Gday All ,
          This post is being watched carefully , If you are thinking of posting a reply make it
          relevant & courteous .
        Aussie Detecting ( Brad ) & Crampo are the dealers for Nokta Detectors
                 Any questions regarding these detectors should be directed to them
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: The Catseye Cleaner on December 17, 2014, 22:57
At last! Thank you Ant.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: The Catseye Cleaner on December 19, 2014, 21:55
Why is there so much "carry on" on this thread? It seems to me that the people here are engaged in some sort of pointless on going circular argument. It's simple folks; If you've had no experience with one of these detectors,...... shut up! and let the people who have, speak. If you have some sort of commercial interest, ......e.g. distributor, dealer etc. please, it's only fair to the reader to make that clear whenever you make any claim or do a review, this includes you Crampo. (even if this is Noktas thread) If, like Ivanll, you use, have used or own one of these detectors by all means give YOUR fair and honest FIRST HAND opinion/experience. I don't want to hear second hand what Dixon Cox from Bum Jump Nowhere reckons it did or didn't do. And before I climb down off my soap box, if someone asks for information or support from the Nokta team, offer Nokta the courtesy of a few days to answer before chiming in with some unfounded ill informed opinion about what they should or should not know. These detectors are relatively new to Auz and we all, including the agents, have lots to discover about them.


Just let me add, I have no affiliation with Nokta or the people running this thread, and I have never even seen one in the flesh, let alone used one. I'm just interested in getting the facts and making up my own mind. Can we please let the people who are trialling them have a few weeks to get use to the machine, get their sh!t together and give their responses. Then we can quiz them, first hand, about it.


Now, help me down off this soap box.    Catseye.  (http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/Smileys/krystl-orange/tongue.gif)  (http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/Smileys/krystl-orange/tongue.gif)  (http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/Smileys/krystl-orange/grin.gif)
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Aussie Detecting on December 19, 2014, 21:59
Here here. Thank you. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Detrack on December 20, 2014, 19:34
I have a lot to say on this, here I go,,,,,,,,,,,,,250mm NO WAY call in the :police:  there is a >:D about I want to see a Vid showing any gold it finds at 200mm ???
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Dingo on December 21, 2014, 08:36
Nokta Fors Gold Detector finds large gold nugget!
Here is the Photo
post-1-0-75152500-1419100076.jpg (http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/uploads/monthly_12_2014/post-1-0-75152500-1419100076.jpg)

http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/502-nokta-scores-spectacular-gold-specimen/
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on December 21, 2014, 10:45
A nice looking bit of gold. The picture had a couple of links on it that led to 5 pages of reviews. The early reviews have been mentioned.  Page 4 seems to be getting a few reviews with comparisons to other machines.
http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/352-detailed-review-of-the-nokta-fors-gold-nugget-detector/page-4
We know that Vlf machines in our very hot ground here in the Golden Triangle don't have much depth. Reading all the reports makes me think that the new Nokta may find some gold in trashy places. I remember a seller of Whites products saying that one of their models wouldn't find gold as deep as a Minelab ( PI) but would find it in places the Minelab couldn't be used.   Perhaps the Nokta will also.  
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: ANT1967 on December 21, 2014, 10:57
Steve H is one of the best
A great piece of Gold !
But ..... Topic
" Customer Feedback from AU "
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: steadyon on December 21, 2014, 21:49
Can Brad or others please gather up some Australian coins pull tabs bottle tops etc such as we find everyday and do some air tests
with the fors gold and fors core .
Report what coil was used, the distance from item and the ID number reported to the screen , we can then compare ID numbers etc to other detectors available on the market. Also on land as compared to beach for same items.
regards steadyon
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: GemQ on December 21, 2014, 22:04
Dingo,

Sure is a beautiful nugget, didnt sound like it was very deep probably why he said " I won't claim that only the Nokta would have found it because any good detector would have". The hardest part of this hobby, swinging over the target.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Dingo on December 22, 2014, 07:52
I've only had my Nokta Fors Gold a short time and I'm still in the testing phase using it mostly on the beach and in parks and so far I'm impressed with its depth.
I mostly use a sovereign gt with a 15" W.O.T. coil for the beach which I like very much and I've used the Nokta Fors Gold over the same beach and have found coins at very good depth with the 11"x7" coil which has surprised me, but I have found it to be chattery on salty wet sand when I was using it for a short time in that area, but I have to experiment more with different settings to see if it was the way I had it set, I think I need more time in this area to learn the right settings for it.
The machine TIDs numbers are ($2 & $1 = 82) (50c = 74) (20c = 68) (10c = 57) (5c = 52) numbers are different to my sovereign but it's not a problem for me like any other machine you just have to learn it's language.



Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Dingo on December 23, 2014, 20:30
I think that a lot of the forum members here have a very narrow view of new detectors that enter the market and criticise them even before they have use them, but wait with baited breath for some one else to spend their money and not theirs and then shoot them down for reporting their findings.

Steve Herschbach is one of the worlds best for reporting about new detectors and has more than 40 years of using metal detectors and the runs on the board for finding "GOLD" and has written many times REPORTS about metal detectors and this would be the person most qualified to report on the Nokta Fors Gold not some of the inexperienced detectorists on this forum that detect from behind their computers!


So why not man up and buy one and find out for your self or do you get someone else to do all the work for you and shop for you as well.
(changed post colour from light to green.  Rwork)
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on December 23, 2014, 20:43
Fors Gold not some of the inexperienced detectorists on this forum that detect from behind their computers!

OK I will bite on this one ,, I've been around for many years and thank you ever so much much for calling me out , read my report and then have another go at me 

Thats all I gota say 

Marty ((not happy JAN))
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: The Catseye Cleaner on December 23, 2014, 20:44
Dingo, Dude! you write with an accent. What is it?
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Count Pierre on December 23, 2014, 20:46
Any room in your corner for Dingo, Trev?   ::)

CP
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 23, 2014, 20:54
OK I will bite on this one ,, I've been around for many years and thank you ever so much much for calling me out , read my report and then have another go at me

Thats all I gota say

Marty ((not happy JAN))

Marty, I do not really think he was referring to you as you are one of our selected testers and we thank you for the time you spent for us. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 23, 2014, 21:01
I think that a lot of the forum members here have a very narrow view of new detectors that enter the market and criticise them even before they have use them, but wait with baited breath for some one else to spend their money and not theirs and then shoot them down for reporting their findings.

Steve Herschbach is one of the worlds best for reporting about new detectors and has more than 40 years of using metal detectors and the runs on the board for finding "GOLD" and has written many times REPORTS about metal detectors and this would be the person most qualified to report on the Nokta Fors Gold not some of the inexperienced detectorists on this forum that detect from behind their computers!

So why not man up and buy one and find out for your self or do you get someone else to do all the work for you and shop for you as well!


Thank you and yes we agree that some members are not open minded about new brands but then again let them. It is their right to try or not to try something new. As long as they keep their respect, we have no issue with that. Yes Steve Herscbach, a very respected expert in this field for many years, wrote a very good report about FORSand he found his best gold specimen with our device a few days ago. But then again, we respect and value AU customers' opinions as much as his. At the end, this is an AU forum and the detector will be used on AU soil. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: A bugs trek on December 23, 2014, 21:56

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Yes Steve Herscbach, a very respected expert in this field for many years, wrote a very good report about FORS and he found his best gold specimen with our device a few days ago.

And Nokta have been trumpeting that find on Aussie forums since Steve shared the news (http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/502-nokta-scores-spectacular-gold-specimen/), but strangely enough Nokta have been careful to leave out of their retelling of the find, Steve's comment that, "I won't claim that only the Nokta would have found it because any good detector would have." Why is that, Mr 'Open and honest' Nokta?
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 23, 2014, 22:03
If talking to yourself is the first sign of madness, what is answering yourself?  Oh, I know........... loneliness.

Now this post tells us only one thing - obviously this is something practiced by others on these forums. Quiet surprising and disappointing but guess what... Nokta does not need any advocates to go around and degrade other brands in forums or create imaginary people to praise our products. We do our job  with honesty and integrity.  And the only advocate we have is our product itself. Any other comment not related to this thread or found to be false accusation will be deleted.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 23, 2014, 22:20
And Nokta have been trumpeting that find on Aussie forums since Steve shared the news (http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/502-nokta-scores-spectacular-gold-specimen/), but strangely enough Nokta have been careful to leave out of their retelling of the find, Steve's comment that, "I won't claim that only the Nokta would have found it because any good detector would have." Why is that, Mr 'Open and honest' Nokta?

Yes we are VERY honest and open. Our post said '' we received the following message and images...'' and this is exactly what we posted and below is the copy of the email we received from Steve. Anybody can contact Steve and confirm. He then posted more details on the forums which is no secret. Anybody can go and read it. And there is nothing wrong with his comment. Has Nokta claimed that it could only be found with FORS? No...Whether some people like it or not, the point is that Steve found one of his best pieces of gold with FORS and we shared this with our customers.

Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: GemQ on December 23, 2014, 22:31
So you telling the forum you didnt delete my post that outlined Feedback to Nokta from Steve and the direct dig from someone with 5 posts.

I believe Steve Said and I quote in full>

"Hello Dilek,

 I appreciate your kind offer. I have given it all some thought, and I have decided that going forward I am not really interested in testing metal detectors in general. A new detector to get my interest would have to be quite special. That basically would exclude single frequency VLF detectors.

 I would be interested if any manufacturer is working on a ground balancing pulse induction detector that weighs less than 5 lbs and that equals or exceeds the performance of the Garrett ATX. I would not be interested in simple single channel ground balancing models like the TDI. I would similarly be interested in any induction balance models incorporating multiple frequencies.

 In other words, I am interested in ground breaking technology. Otherwise, I am satisfied with what I currently have at my disposal. In 2015 I want to spend less time testing new detectors and more time just finding gold.

 Thank you for your consideration!
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 23, 2014, 22:50
So you telling the forum you didnt delete my post that outlined Feedback to Nokta from Steve and the direct dig from someone with 5 posts.

I believe Steve Said and I quote in full>

"Hello Dilek,

 I appreciate your kind offer. I have given it all some thought, and I have decided that going forward I am not really interested in testing metal detectors in general. A new detector to get my interest would have to be quite special. That basically would exclude single frequency VLF detectors.

 I would be interested if any manufacturer is working on a ground balancing pulse induction detector that weighs less than 5 lbs and that equals or exceeds the performance of the Garrett ATX. I would not be interested in simple single channel ground balancing models like the TDI. I would similarly be interested in any induction balance models incorporating multiple frequencies.

 In other words, I am interested in ground breaking technology. Otherwise, I am satisfied with what I currently have at my disposal. In 2015 I want to spend less time testing new detectors and more time just finding gold.

 Thank you for your consideration!

This is a response Steve gave on a forum to our post :   ''................ Steve, as information on the new models are confidential at this point I cannot share them here on the forum but I can email you to give you some preliminary info to get your input if you wish.''
So we were talking about the future models not FORS as Steve had already tested FORS and had written a review on it.
There is nothing to be deleted about this post. As a matter of fact, we would be very happy if anybody goes and reads this thread on Steve's forum where people are saying very good things about our company. So we do not understand what you are trying to prove here? 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on December 23, 2014, 23:12
Dingo who are you ,you joined the forum didn't say hello and then told us we are narrow minded probably not the best way to start on a forum
why were you picked to test the detector do you have extensive knowledge of detecting gold with vlf detectors and are you a dealer for nokta

Correction - He was not one of the testers picked  - our dealer helped us pick three - Robert, Marty and third reviewer's mother died so he did not test it yet.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Detrack on December 24, 2014, 13:44
So you can have 20 or 100 years detecting and tell others how good a detector is on ground from the other side of the world and we are to believe it will be as good he in Oz.
Unless the detector has been tested here in Oz and seen it working in person then I don't want to read stories because that's all they are.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Dingo on December 30, 2014, 20:57
Well I have to say that I'm very happy with my Nokta Fors Gold Detector it has more than paid for it self this week in jewellery finds alone and I won't be selling it any time soon when it has earned it's keep easily and more in the last few weeks to my surprise.
This is the first detector that has done this for me so easily, the others I own have a long way to go to pay for their purchases.

I'm not connected in any way with Nokta Detectors!
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Count Pierre on December 30, 2014, 21:04
Sounds good, Dingo.              8)

Got  any pics of some of the jewellery?

CP
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Stalker on December 30, 2014, 23:02
Sounds good, Dingo.              8)

Got  any pics of some of the jewellery?

CP

Ahh yes ,,, I'd like to see too CP  ,,

maybe dingo should post his finds in the coin and jewelry section along with any pics he has, ,  I'm sure the forum and  all would like to see your finds ,

Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Count Pierre on January 02, 2015, 15:29
Still waiting for Dingo's jewellery pics which paid for his Nokta in a week......................

I've had my CTX for over a week now, & I haven't even paid for the coil yet!!    >:(

Maybe Dingo became a little excited by all the  "hype"??   ::)

CP
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: tonyw on January 02, 2015, 16:48
Still waiting for Dingo's jewellery pics which paid for his Nokta in a week......................

I've had my CTX for over a week now, & I haven't even paid for the coil yet!!    >:(

Maybe Dingo became a little excited by all the  "hype"??   ::)

CP

Too busy slagging the Excal II

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Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rob071 on January 02, 2015, 22:37
The best way to win any customer over is video proof,words mean jack ruby in Australia if they can see it working and picking gold and anything else up thats a win...
Before you released theses detectors there should have been hundreds of hours testing in all states of Australia,with vid proof to back up findings,but hey what would i know.....
I've contracted to the biggest company's in Australia and Brand recognition is massive,and what it stands for..
I know its a new market for you guys but you should be up to speed on this side of things and what is going on makes you guys look bad.
Video proof is just that no body can knock back what you're doing if its in black and white.
Ask the testers if they have a go pro and record record record...
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on January 02, 2015, 23:09
The best way to win any customer over is video proof,words mean jack ruby in Australia if they can see it working and picking gold and anything else up thats a win...
Before you released theses detectors there should have been hundreds of hours testing in all states of Australia,with vid proof to back up findings,but hey what would i know.....
I've contracted to the biggest company's in Australia and Brand recognition is massive,and what it stands for..
I know its a new market for you guys but you should be up to speed on this side of things and what is going on makes you guys look bad.
Video proof is just that no body can knock back what you're doing if its in black and white.
Ask the testers if they have a go pro and record record record...
Thank you for all the feedback. First of all, the device was tested but test results posted by people who have commercial interest in the product would not mean much to users on the forum. That is why we asked for testers to write up reviews and these testers are more than welcome to post videos but we cannot force them as they have no obligation to do so but we will ask them because we agree on your comment of videos. What we do not agree to, though, is your comment of ''what is going on makes you guys look bad''. We stand behind our company and products and we have been very honest and open from day one. We have not made any false claims or disrespected anybody. We are here to support those who are interested and we do not force anybody to be interested. This is a sub-forum in a forum that people can choose to read or ignore. On another forum in AU, the admins created a sub-forum for Nokta and Makro on their own without our request saying that there is a quite bit of interest for our products. So from our side, all looks good. It is all about how one wants to look at it. Thank you again. 

Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rob071 on January 02, 2015, 23:45
I think you miss understand what Im saying tbh,
Video proof SHOULD be a requirement to test them,not up to them YOU want to prove that you should be here in this market im all for new things but they need to stand up with proof.
Im sorry you can stand behind your products that's not the issue,us as consumers what to see smell and taste what you are offering,the brands that are out like minelab,garret have a brand and its a known product,do you see where im coming from?
I think you can see how people from Australia look at it,its plain to see with some of the comments in this thread,trust me talk to your testers and ask them for video proof of it working hell spring them a go-pro and some memory cards to get hours of footage.
Even if you have testers over seas ask them as well.
The more footage you have the better chance you have to make more sales and that's what its about isnt it?
I will give you a example....
Coke,spend millions of dollars on advertising there product i don't need to spend a cent to sell it why?
Because of brand power that's why its that simple...
And tbh you're last 3 lines don't go a long way either,we should all be interested to see what's new on the market because its what we love doing,and you should be wanting people to see your products..
Dont mean to sound rude but have you been to Australia?
Or meet anybody that is Australian,because we are a funny bunch down here but lovely people come down here bring some detectors and try our hot soils in West Australia,even our beaches..
Title: OMG enough is enough
Post by: pete_n_rie on January 03, 2015, 07:13
I just dont get it ??? 
What is up with all you mob bagging and throwing dung at this emerging company ?
It's like the bloody Salem witch hunt all over again, never in my life have i seen this type
of behavior towards a detector company, i realize that no one wants shoddy gear and we all
want the worlds best but really ? is this the best way to go about it ? Personally i'm over it and i would take a punt that a whole lot of members feel the same as me.
Yes your right "dont read the Nokta board then" but why should any member have to constantly see
this BS when most are very interested in the new gear.
Stuff this, ive got better things to do.

Pete.
PS - Dilek, i wish yous all the best with your gear and the new year.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Adrian ss on January 03, 2015, 07:51
Nokta is not exactly an Emerging Company, they have been around for a while, seven or eight years I think but am not certain and have developed some fairly spiffy metal detectors for the European market. Detectors like the Golden king for example. http://www.kellycodetectors.com/products/professional/n1448-gkp/golden-king-dpr-plus (http://www.kellycodetectors.com/products/professional/n1448-gkp/golden-king-dpr-plus)
These detectors have some very high tech inovations  but never realy faired well in our highly iron mineralised ground. Now Nokta  are  trying to enter the Aussie gold and coin/relic hunting market but have to overcome the passed lack of interest in these detectors from Aussie detectorists.
The Fors Gold clearly has some interesting characteristics that is triggering some interest here.Now it is just a matter of "Time Will tell" as more and more Aussies try out the Fors Gold. If it works well here then the word will spread very quickly.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on January 03, 2015, 08:25
Nokta is not exactly an Emerging Company, they have been around for a while and have developed some fairly spiffy metal detectors for the European market. These detectors have some very high tech inovations  but never realy faired well in our highly iron mineralised ground. Now Nokta  are  trying to enter the Aussie gold and coin/relic hunting market but have to overcome the passed lack of interest in these detectors from Aussie detectorists.
The Fors Gold clearly has some interesting characteristics that is triggering some interest here.Now it is just a matter of "Time Will tell" as more and more Aussies try out the Fors Gold. If it works well here then the word will spread very quickly.

Yes, Nokta has been around for a while and we did have models prior to FORS but we, as the manufacturer, never tried to market them to AU other than the few units sent there on request .We knew that despite the good results in different countries, they would not perform well in many areas of AU. But FORS is compatible if not better than many VLFs currently sold in the market. Like you said as more people who are experienced in VLFs try it, we are confident that we will have a lot of happy users in AU as well. Thank you.
Title: Re: OMG enough is enough
Post by: Nokta Detectors on January 03, 2015, 08:38
I just dont get it ???
What is up with all you mob bagging and throwing dung at this emerging company ?
It's like the bloody Salem witch hunt all over again, never in my life have i seen this type
of behavior towards a detector company, i realize that no one wants shoddy gear and we all
want the worlds best but really ? is this the best way to go about it ? Personally i'm over it and i would take a punt that a whole lot of members feel the same as me.
Yes your right "dont read the Nokta board then" but why should any member have to constantly see
this BS when most are very interested in the new gear.
Stuff this, ive got better things to do.

Pete.
PS - Dilek, i wish yous all the best with your gear and the new year.

Hello ...I will just copy and paste some parts of one of my prior posts to thank you:
''Thank you for appreciating what we are trying to accomplish. Nokta is selling detectors to many countries all over the world. In some, we have very good presence and in some we still have a long way to go which is a very motivating challenge for us. AU is one of the countries where we want to increase our brand awareness. ....This does not mean we are perfect in everything we do.We may make mistakes just like all other manufacturers who entered this market before us and went thru the same steps. ............but we will continue to be here for those who appreciate what we are trying to do and we sincerely thank you!''
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Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Count Pierre on January 03, 2015, 09:42
Guess we're being chastised by the newby.................... :o


CP
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rob071 on January 03, 2015, 10:27
Yes, Nokta has been around for a while and we did have models prior to FORS but we, as the manufacturer, never tried to market them to AU other than the few units sent there on request .We knew that despite the good results in different countries, they would not perform well in many areas of AU. But FORS is compatible if not better than many VLFs currently sold in the market. Like you said as more people who are experienced in VLFs try it, we are confident that we will have a lot of happy users in AU as well. Thank you.




This says it all,its good to see you admit this place we call home is harsh place for any detector let alone a market leader like some other brands.
This is why i said come to Australia bring some models here and get amongst the people,trust me if you did that you would have a better response
I cant see any bashing or poor form towards your company or anybody's else's from me,i want to see more players enter the market because it does 1 thing,and that is it favours the consumer because of market forces...
Do you mind if i post a vid of a another brand to show you what i mean?.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on January 03, 2015, 10:39
Rob071. The Nokta section isn't the place to put up other brands videos. Stick it in the general coin and relic or gold section and it will get the same or more views. This section is for Nokta feedback.  I guess you would be pointing out that you would like to see a video similar to your own but using a Nokta.     I would have hoped we would have heard more from dingo who seems to be doing the best in Australia with his unit. Was he chosen by an Australian seller to test the unit here or did he just purchase a unit and found it very good?
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rob071 on January 03, 2015, 11:03
Rob071. The Nokta section isn't the place to put up other brands videos. Stick it in the general coin and relic or gold section and it will get the same or more views. This section is for Nokta feedback.  I guess you would be pointing out that you would like to see a video similar to your own but using a Nokta.     I would have hoped we would have heard more from dingo who seems to be doing the best in Australia with his unit. Was he chosen by an Australian seller to test the unit here or did he just purchase a unit and found it very good?


Thats the whole issue Rwork,it doesn't mater whos detector it is tbh there just seems to be a lack of proof in terms of video that is on Oz soils,i think this is the reason why people are saying what they are..
Yes it might-en be the section to do it but it might give the brand reps and sales people some food for thought on how they can win the people over in this country to purchase there detectors
Im more than happy to put it in the gold section..
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: tinpan on January 05, 2015, 00:26
And Nokta have been trumpeting that find on Aussie forums since Steve shared the news (http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/502-nokta-scores-spectacular-gold-specimen/), but strangely enough Nokta have been careful to leave out of their retelling of the find, Steve's comment that, "I won't claim that only the Nokta would have found it because any good detector would have." Why is that, Mr 'Open and honest' Nokta?
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Hi  There is no ground materal or mineral staining in Steve's specie The quartz cracks which are quite visable and are perfectly clean.  Quote "Dirty Grey Lump "  found near a tree . May be  more info is required  as the write up! doesn,t  match the photo of  the specie.   Just a friendly suggestion

  Tinpan
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on January 05, 2015, 00:29
OH dear can of worms coming  >:D
Marty
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on January 05, 2015, 06:40
On one of the stories there is a picture of the speccy just out of the ground. I think it was pictured with a gloved hand.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on January 05, 2015, 19:48
And Nokta have been trumpeting that find on Aussie forums since Steve shared the news (http://www.detectorprospector.com/forum/topic/502-nokta-scores-spectacular-gold-specimen/), but strangely enough Nokta have been careful to leave out of their retelling of the find, Steve's comment that, "I won't claim that only the Nokta would have found it because any good detector would have." Why is that, Mr 'Open and honest' Nokta?
[/quote

Hi  There is no ground materal or mineral staining in Steve's specie The quartz cracks which are quite visable and are perfectly clean.  Quote "Dirty Grey Lump "  found near a tree . May be  more info is required  as the write up! doesn,t  match the photo of  the specie.   Just a friendly suggestion

  Tinpan

Hello...when you are quoting a prior post, you cannot copy and paste parts of it ...you also need to quote our response if you want to be fair which was :

''Yes we are VERY honest and open. Our post said '' we received the following message and images...'' and this is exactly what we posted and below is the copy of the email we received from Steve. Anybody can contact Steve and confirm. He then posted more details on the forums which is no secret. Anybody can go and read it. And there is nothing wrong with his comment. Has Nokta claimed that it could only be found with FORS? No...Whether some people like it or not, the point is that Steve found one of his best pieces of gold with FORS and we shared this with our customers.''

Once again, we are not pushing anybody to read this forum or purchase our products. We are sharing information that can simply be ignored by those who are not interested. I will please ask everybody to show the courtesy and respect that we have been giving to all the members of the forum. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on January 05, 2015, 19:58
Rob071. The Nokta section isn't the place to put up other brands videos. Stick it in the general coin and relic or gold section and it will get the same or more views. This section is for Nokta feedback.  I guess you would be pointing out that you would like to see a video similar to your own but using a Nokta.     I would have hoped we would have heard more from dingo who seems to be doing the best in Australia with his unit. Was he chosen by an Australian seller to test the unit here or did he just purchase a unit and found it very good?

Hello...Dingo was not one of the testers. As we did not know who Dingo was either, we checked with the dealer and found out that he is a customer who purchased the product. 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on January 06, 2015, 19:40
Dingo sure has gone quite, are you sure he is not a Tassie Tiger  ;) , all Aussies will know what I mean by that >:D ((well they should do ))
Marty
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rob071 on January 10, 2015, 11:07
Ok guys this is what people want to see this is in America,so please get some vids like this on Oz soils please..

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Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Count Pierre on January 10, 2015, 14:48
Bloody Hell! What a lot of "pussy footing" around with that hole.......plastic spoon?? :o

Get a Lesche & make a proper NEAT Hole!! ::)

CP
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Goldfish on January 10, 2015, 14:55
And a pin pointer
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on January 10, 2015, 15:29
And a Pick
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Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Adrian ss on January 10, 2015, 21:10
Well that is not so bad, the tecta found that item at around the 7 inch mark and signal was fine.
Although that was a beautifull example of how not to  dig a target out of the ground.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rob071 on January 12, 2015, 22:15
Yer but the issue is its not our soil,its in America.
i just want to see what it can do on our soils here,and Ivan it doesn't matter what you found on the vids as long as people can see what it is and how its reading or picking the item up,because it will be a good indicator of the detector..
So post away sunshine,because we all find trash.....EVERYBODY...
Doesnt matter what the detector is..
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Stalker on January 13, 2015, 21:18
I wonder what the other 3 have to say ,,, its been awhile now and new testing reports have not been sighted yet ,, just curious as to when we'll see these ,,,
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rob071 on January 13, 2015, 22:13
The  amount of hurdles I had to negotiate in order to obtain a Fors do not enourage one to also produce and supply free video info to the public.
My Fors Gold is as said before available for testing by apointment for those interested, that should be enough on an independent owners charity agenda.
 Besides there is 5 Nokta Fors testers including resellers in Australia, presumably sufficient to do any reports/video from different locations to fulfil and answer any questions that may arise.

ivanll



Wow really dude.....
How hard is it to make a vid like it really....
So making a vid and posting it would come under charity in your eyes hey?
Just wow,and i thought the fps gaming community was bad.....
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Nokta Detectors on January 13, 2015, 23:11
Hello all...2 reports were posted already - Marty and Robert's. We are waiting on the 3rd one (by Shaun).
And the 4th one will be posted by Owen (Narrawa). He posted his preliminary results on the other forum if anybody is interested.
Thank you.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on January 13, 2015, 23:29
Would you have a link to Owens post ?

Found it
http://australiangoldfields.freeforums.org/post20413.html#p20413

Marty
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Stalker on January 14, 2015, 00:13
Hello all...2 reports were posted already - Marty and Robert's. We are waiting on the 3rd one (by Shaun).
And the 4th one will be posted by Owen (Narrawa). He posted his preliminary results on the other forum if anybody is interested.
Thank you.

I see marty posted a link to owens thanks marty ,, what forum is roberts posted on 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on January 14, 2015, 07:40
A pity Narrawa hasn't had time to go to the goldfields. He seems to be an experienced operater and i have some of his gold pictures on my Dvd.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: ANT1967 on January 14, 2015, 11:04
A pity Narrawa hasn't had time to go to the goldfields. He seems to be an experienced operater and i have some of his gold pictures on my Dvd.



Narrawa is doing his Goldfield test & reports this week.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on January 19, 2015, 14:28
Hi all,
Rather than reproduce my findings here, its easier to just link to it.
Over the last week on and off due to down time traveling from state to state, i had a little time to get out with the FG to an area close by thats not very kind to VLF detectors.
Though this was my first goldfield attempt with the FG, it wont be my last as im planning on returning here for round 2 this week.
I didn't go easy on it, however i knew from the start this was going to be a challenge for the FG as it has/is for any top of the range VLF detector in this location. And iv tried a few here for this very reason.
Despite my findings thus far, i believe this unit to have good potential in our fields that will with more time, prove fruitful over other top of the range VLFs.
No vids or gold to report in round 1.

http://australiangoldfields.freeforums. … tml#p20425 (http://australiangoldfields.freeforums.org/post20425.html#p20425)
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on January 19, 2015, 15:31
An interesting well written post Narrawa and welcome to our forum.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: trevorpickettau on January 19, 2015, 16:07
honest report thanks for the no bs evaluation
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Stalker on January 23, 2015, 16:27
Funny ,,, tid numbers , take note nokta to ivans post , I dont need to prove anyrhing or drop names to tell you the tid  numbers need sorting out , but yet you doubted me when I mentioned it,, , ,, 
I would not like to be deaf and be digging by the numbers ,,,
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Adrian ss on January 23, 2015, 20:03
My XLT reads 68 to 70 for Aussie 1 dollar......2 dollar  reads 66 to 68
Steel bottle cap 96 to 98 but varies a bit depending on the type of plating on the cap.

Sov XS reads 499 to 500 for 1 dollar and 488 to 497 for 2 dollar.
Plated steel bottle cap readings jumps  randomly right across  the range from -1390 to +440, a sure sign of a rusty or steel item.

My old analogue Whites 6000 DI PRO SL and 6000 DI Series 3 also very clearly separate our Aussie coins from steel bottle caps
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on January 24, 2015, 15:12
Another round with the FG.
http://australiangoldfields.freeforums.org/nokta-makro-fors-gold-t3468.html

I waved a 2c coin over the dirty30 and it gave different readings when the coin was waved from vertical to horizontal. This was a problem that plagued the early Explores and the only thing thats changed in my opinion is the price.
The tests i did with the FG, MXT and F19 all had different readings on our coins....but the tones were the give away. Not often iron will hit those readings, or tones in low mineralization. The v3i is also different and changing certain filters ect will give new readings again.
The closer our $1 & $2 coins are in readings the better. Bottle caps will always be problematic..they come is so many different arrangements its just not funny. If recalibrating a detector to better read, or separate our coins was done...the readings from the array off different bottle caps will be placed where.? in the ring range perhaps.? There lays another problem with many detectors when reading rings...low numbers, foil then becomes the new bottle cap.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on January 31, 2015, 04:35
Park hunt with the FG..

http://australiangoldfields.freeforums.org/post20460.html#p20460
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on January 31, 2015, 11:20
Finally got the use of one. Have to re read posts and the book. The new owner couldn't use it around his house yard for noise but was ok out in a paddock away from phones and TV. He wants me to learn all about it and teach him. At least we will have one at the next club gold prospecting outing in two weeks.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on January 31, 2015, 12:24
Finally got the use of one. Have to re read posts and the book. The new owner couldn't use it around his house yard for noise but was ok out in a paddock away from phones and TV. He wants me to learn all about it and teach him. At least we will have one at the next club gold prospecting outing in two weeks.
Dont be scared to drop the gain back when using it in built up areas with EMI. Its got a lot of gain and is quiet usable running low gain both in house yards, and gold fields. You also have to highlight the frequency adjustment in the menu, then pull the trigger to make the greyed out menu  come active for adjustment. This will help tame it if the source of EMI is a little high.

I often turn it on in my caravan to fiddle around with...no problems.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on January 31, 2015, 15:06
I had the gain tuned down in the third setting ,COG but its a bit deep for my lawns. A few targets were dug at full Lesche depths and the grass hasn't recovered from the Ace250 tests yet. I like the vibrating handle on the first setting. It feels like a pinpointer locking onto a target. I don't know why it didn't have a support strap on the handle when the user manuel shows one. Maybe it got lost at the dealers. Balance is good. Volume was left set on maximum and the bloke next door came out to see what the racket was. Half volume seems ok without wind noise. More testing when i understand it better.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Stalker on January 31, 2015, 17:23
Finally got the use of one. Have to re read posts and the book. The new owner couldn't use it around his house yard for noise but was ok out in a paddock away from phones and TV. He wants me to learn all about it and teach him. At least we will have one at the next club gold prospecting outing in two weeks.

good on ya ray ,, it'll be interesting to see how you go with it ,, 
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on January 31, 2015, 21:27
I had the gain tuned down in the third setting ,COG but its a bit deep for my lawns. A few targets were dug at full Lesche depths and the grass hasn't recovered from the Ace250 tests yet. I like the vibrating handle on the first setting. It feels like a pinpointer locking onto a target. I don't know why it didn't have a support strap on the handle when the user manuel shows one. Maybe it got lost at the dealers. Balance is good. Volume was left set on maximum and the bloke next door came out to see what the racket was. Half volume seems ok without wind noise. More testing when i understand it better.
Yeah i know what your saying bout the Lesche running out of depth, kinda need something a little deeper penetrating. Wait till you start using the DI2 pattern, its the two tone disc program. The COG program is the beach mode....kinda wish i had the Core and not the Gold version now. Not complaining because its certainly got some get up and go about it.

Look forward to reading some of your reports on it.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on February 02, 2015, 23:29
I spent a bit of time reading the book and playing with the settings. It is annoying when learning the machine that the screen is on the side and not in front of you. I wonder if the screen could be put on a hinge or swivel so it can be swung out like the compact video camera screens. The receiver picks up every bit of interference around my house. Turning down the gain to under half let it run quiet but i think it lost too much depth. I still haven't had it out somewhere away from outside interference yet. I stuck some gold up on a plastic chair and did some air tests. I know my little Ace250 is no good in the mineralised goldfields but around my yard it doesn't seem to hear the TV and phone lines. The Ace out performed the test machine on gold while i had the Nokta gain turned down for smooth running. I couldn't run the Nokta with the power up even though i tried all of the frequency settings. I know the Nokta is a deep running machine when its set up with the gain higher and hopefully in two weeks on our goldfields it will find some gold.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on February 03, 2015, 15:03
Interesting reading your findings on interference....i never got that in the yards i was working in suburbia.?

When you do get it out into the goldfields, can you make note of the ground readings you get when GBing the machine. Id be most interested.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on February 03, 2015, 18:20
I wonder if the interference could be the 3G /4G wireless internet service. Our town is all wireless as we are to far away for wired ADSL. 14th. Feb is our next campout. I will take note of the ground readings but expect them to be Very high.Dropping a rare earth magnet anywhere we hunt will Always lift up soil and small rocks.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Marty on February 03, 2015, 21:38
No Problems around my home , even when under the 33kv lines smooth as 
M,
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on February 18, 2015, 07:04
I borrowed the Nokta unit for a few hours and gave it a tryout on the goldfields. Our club went to Avoca but i drove across to Percydale for a look. It was 37c in the shade but the heaps i wanted to check were in the sun so i didn't get as much time as i would have liked.  The ground out there is fairly quiet compared to our normal hunt sites. Mainly white pipeclay heaps with lots of smooth worn rocks. The ground reading showed 78. I used it on one of the discrimination setting, these give no threshold background noise. No point in using it in all metal as i may as well have used my 5000. I had hoped to find some gold on the large heaps that i would have walked away from normally due to lots of iron. I used the machine on flatout power. I only took a small pick and it wasn't long before i wished i had my large gold pick with me. It finds stuff fairly deep. I found some .22 cal projectiles down deep. I forgot to bring some gold out as my pack is normally all combined with the Mlb battery pack unit. Without gold i couldn't remember what numbers to set the discrimination to. I set the unit to cut out all signals below number 20 which includes iron. I found an old badge,bits of bling and a very large spoon which had been modified. After i found a Chinese coin i raised the discrimination to 50 and found another coin which was a very old halfpenny. I didn't find gold but did find things on heaps that i would have walked away from normally.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on February 18, 2015, 08:22
Wish i was able to run that sort of gain in the goldfield im hunting. I bet you were not expecting that sort of depth with it either...lol

Chinese coin, nice find.

How did you find the shaft, handling/comfort.?
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Rwork on February 18, 2015, 13:12
The detector chattered a bit on flatout but i have used old minelabs for many years and i am used of a bit of extra noise. The signals still popped up louder than the background noise. I liked the shaft and balance. I had an XS bent shaft Sov at the same time as the straight shaft GT and didn't have any problems with either. The coil didn't come loose but i found the shaft a little short as the button had stuck and i couldn't get it to slide while out in the paddock.I turned the gain down later as i was finding very small bits of brass and foil but it still found them.
Title: Re: FORS GOLD - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK FROM AU
Post by: Narrawa on February 25, 2015, 02:53
Last post right down the bottom....not a bad day out.

http://australiangoldfields.freeforums.org/nokta-makro-fors-gold-t3468.html