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Destroying the grass!
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:44 »
Hey all, I'm new to the game. I have been hunting some school yards lately (with permission :) ) and I've hit a nice patch that's giving me some great coins but everytime I return, my dig holes are standing out like dog ****! I feel awful about it. The area has had no rain for awhile and it looks to be like it for some time. How do i help this? I use a small digging utensil and take alot of time pinpointing so i narrow it down the best i can. Should i carry a water bucket with me  ??? the kids must be hating me
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 14:03 »
There are two methods, I will dig them for you   ;)

start with this : http://www.goldpanprospectors.com/accessories.html
There are a couple of links on the page...
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2012, 19:06 »
JJKing,

Several factors come into play on this - your proficiency, what type of tool your using, how big the plug is, what angle you dig the plug at, what type of grass your cutting through, how dry the soil is etc ...

Ideally you want to extract the coin in the least amount of time, with the least amount of effort, with the least amount of damage to the turf and with minimal risk to the target.

Consider the factors at play and work out a methodology that works for you.

Lately for me its been small (tennis ball sized), vertical sided plugs using the little eagle shovel. I'll put about 20% of the loose soil off to one side, reinstate the plug, use my heel in a twisting motion to compress the plug so it sits just below ground height, I'll then use the loose soil to fill any gaps and scratch the around around the hole with my boot to camouflage it a bit more. Properly done it takes little time and is virtually undetectable in all but the thickest lawns. If I get some time I'll try and take a video of it.

For thick, lush lawns you may just have to wait for a rainy season to work the ground.

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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2012, 19:12 »
I tend to hunt perhaps 3 areas mostly and I leave them to recover and go further afield and wait for rain
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2012, 20:30 »
Personally I'd be leaving well alone if your damage is that evident - esp in such a public place ::) If the ground is very dry you will always leave a tell-tale sign. Hunt less prominent places for a while, come back when the rains come. Or risk being kicked off site.
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2012, 19:26 »
I generally use the same method as CR, but when it is really dry, which it is now in my area, I have gone back to the screwdriver method.

Using a pinpointer gives a pretty accurate area to dig, & the screwdriver does not leave as much evidence of a "hole". ::)
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 19:44 »
I am taking to using the screwdriver as well more as a challenge than anything as the soil is drying here but isnt to bad yet. I have a very fine cheapie screwdriver that I use to find the target then a more substantial one to dig the target with.  Is my first summer with a metal detector so am going to have to learn some self control during the hotter months or find some non parks to dig in.
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2012, 05:44 »
JJ

The bottom line is there are going to be times during the year that its best to rest a place until conditions are better. Good thing about coins and relics they don't go anywhere.
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2012, 12:17 »
Thanks everyone for your great ideas! I think i will give the place a rest for now. I am going to try out all your different methods and see which works best for me. I have mixed feelings about how effective the screwdriver will be with this area, it has a few different soil layers eg  hard clay, very compacted dirt with sea shells and small/large rocks thrown in. I guess it will come to me with a bit of practice! Bring on the rains  :)
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 07:19 »
JJ

The bottom line is there are going to be times during the year that its best to rest a place until conditions are better. Good thing about coins and relics they don't go anywhere.
That is of course if a sneaky lurka steals your spot and doesent care about the grass...prepare the lynch mob.
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 10:46 »
There are two methods, I will dig them for you   ;)

start with this : http://www.goldpanprospectors.com/accessories.html
There are a couple of links on the page...

This is an Old Post. But as a new Detectorist i think that It has plenty of Merit. And wouldn't Hurt to remind us of the options of
retrieving  our finds. The Video is probably clearer than the written  instructions.

Thanks to DIG DIG for the Post and the link.

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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2013, 17:43 »
where is digdig   .............   
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2014, 08:03 »
I know this is an old post but just going through you never know what you may find,In a small site like a school or park just have a spare bucket of good quality topsoil with you,allow 1 extra scoop from the bucket per hole dosn't take long and looks good when the nosy public come for a gander as you can explain what you are doing.
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2014, 01:32 »
I find these gasket scrapers work really well for coin popping. The wider head seems to be more efficient than a screwdriver.

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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2014, 08:06 »
I would have to agree with a comment above .  Wait for rain .  I have been to a few spots myself around the area and what I have seen is pretty bad .   Looks like some newby is using a full blown sand shovel   .  Even being a newbie myself ,I can now pinpoint and just dig a hole as square as the Lesche ,about 50mm square . Still a good idea to wait until the soil is wet .  Gaz
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2014, 19:03 »
plenty of rain in Sydney finally!! whoohoo

ok here is a nice vid to help u dig your hole with minimal damage!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdikCbrrXE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdikCbrrXE</a>
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2014, 21:12 »
Good part about the hole . Nearly exactly what I do  , I don't think he has a pointer   ;D Thanks J.                    Gaz
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2014, 14:16 »
plenty of rain in Sydney finally!! whoohoo

ok here is a nice vid to help u dig your hole with minimal damage!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdikCbrrXE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdikCbrrXE</a>

I think while he didnt make a mess he would have killed the plug pulling the dirt off the roots like that. A probe or pinpointer to find the target and disturbing the plug as little as possible would make it a good system IMHO.
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2014, 15:35 »
Yes it was more of a correct way to dig the plug


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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2016, 22:43 »
Probably teaching grandmother to suck eggs, but here goes.!!! When I finally detect on lawns anywhere, I intend to take a small spray bottle with me with a mixture of liquid Seasol and water, and before I put the plug back, give it a spray. I think it would help, if it stands out because it's too green, would be better than dead grass.!!!
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2016, 23:06 »
Once you get the hang of the probe rod and screw driver you don't leave any damage at all. I will not cut the grass no matter what.
I remove the target with a pair of forceps.
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2016, 06:54 »
The first part of video using the probe rod and screw driver is the way I retrieve the target apart from using a pair of forceps.
I would not use any of the other methods because of likely comeback and making it hard for other detectorists.

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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2016, 13:29 »
I tend to slice and pop.  A simple cut/slit and a pop.  Target and pinpoint the coin ( A good pin pointer and know how to use it) and then using a sharp knife; dig the blade in a bit past the coin and slice backwards onto it.  If it feels like a coin and not a ring pull (you will get to know the difference) then keep coming and once past the coin. Dig the blade in at an angle under the coin AND pop it out.

A quick stamp and as good as gold.   

If you targeting silvers etc = As per Beepn.   And you can use a brass or other probe and forceps to get the coin 
Hate plugs with a passion.   All too often the coin is only just below the surface as well.

Many do not like my comments - but Plugs in a High Vis and or other public places are the signs of  a recovery process that is lacking some core skills.     YEP = may sound a bit harsh but if I an others can recover without plugs = Can not be that hard.

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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2016, 17:49 »
the slit & pop method is great for newer & shallow coins but when your hunting for older & deeper coins/relics it's dam near impossible so plug hunting the damper times of year is also a good option.   
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Re: Destroying the grass!
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2016, 15:21 »
Hi, I'm new to detecting, but was thinking that if and when I detect in parks etc, I will take a small spray bottle with a mixture of Liquid Seasol and water with me. Give a squirt before I replace the plug, and also after.!! Be worth a try.

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