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Scoop Handles.
« on: March 16, 2014, 14:51 »
Made in ROC Fibreglass handle from post hole diggers make excellent scoop handles, they are hollow with 3mm thick walls and can be sealed to float upright when used in water.

Yellow ones from local hardware store got mounted on a couple of STAVR scoops.

Red one is from Masters, one had slight modification + colour change and is now mounted on a Sunspot (À la carte) "Stealth" scoop.

Yellow handle Super-Duty NUPLAGLAS (on left) is solid core, obtained from Blackwoods.
 


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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 11:38 »
StavR scoops use to come with 30mm ID shaft tubes.
English speaking countries uses shafts of  1 1/4" (32MM) OD.



Ruslan was asked to change the tube size on his scoops supplied to Australia, which I believe he do if requested.


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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 17:50 »
Just for the Info,   When i made my scoop, i used 32mm OD  Stainless Steel Tube  x 1.5mm wall thickness. It is only about $16 a Metre.  I am going to pump some Expanda foam down the tube to help it float.
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 18:10 »
I have just taken delivery of a Standart 7.5" Scoop from the Ukraine.

Good scoop, but the internal handle size is 35mm. which makes it a bit hard to find one to suit.:-\ 

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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2014, 18:37 »
CP, could you drive or weld a tube insert insite the original sleeve ?
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2014, 09:14 »
Long shovel handles of 35mm + are available attached to quite cheap imported shovels or loose at nearly the same price..........at any better hardware store.

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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2014, 19:59 »
Thanks Ivan. 

I didn't realise 35mm was a standard over here. Most I've seen are 32mm.......big difference when it counts!:)

I'll hunt one up when I get back home.

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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2015, 10:35 »
Nice straight hollow fiberglass handles, good for scoop handles.
https://www.masters.com.au/product/100842854/bond-fiberglass-long-handle-post-hole-digger.jsp
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2015, 11:30 »
I had a trenching shovel I used to use for the beaches with a fibre glass handle.  The shovel head snapped (due to digging in rocky areas of beach) but I kept the handle to slot into a new scoop that should be arriving shortly.  I like the flex of these things when I was using it, gives good leverage in those sticky compact mud areas.
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2015, 14:24 »
Hello Gents,
I\'ve broken 3 handles in as many weeks :( they have all been the fibreglass from Bunnings, Ivanill how is that handle u got from Masters ? Still going strong ???
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2015, 18:41 »
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fiberglass handle necessary to paste plug 30 cm (1 foot) near the scoop ...
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2015, 23:30 »
Hello Stavr, yes they have had steel inserts and the last had a timber insert 30cm. 
I have a Stavr what handle would u recommend ?  I was considering aluminium, timber ??
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2015, 15:01 »
All my hollow fiberglass handles are holding up, but I got 50cm of snugly fitting straight grained round timber (broom handle) totally sealed with http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Tarzan-s-Grip-Adhesive-Mega-Bond-45mL.aspx?pid=285049#Recommendations
also available from Bunnings  and a small plug in the top, so the handle float upright when in deeper water.

Once had a new shovel with long hardwood handle, it broke on the 3th dig that be the reason for a change to fiberglass, the post hole digger from Masters have straight handles and was the cheapest and had the thickest walls at the time of purchase.

Solid core Nuplaglass might still be available from Blackwoods, but expensive and heavier.

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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2015, 17:50 »
I can only comment on my rig.  I use a wooden handle that came off a Spear and Jackson rake purchased at Bunnings for less the $10.  It is quite strong, with a little flex in the shaft.  I have used it for six months.

I don't know how it compares to fibreglass or other material in terms of strength, but I am very happy with the choice I made.  The way it's performing I can see it lasting quite a while yet.  If it does break, $10 and I'm back in business again.

The scoop was purchased from Ebay from 'Sandscoop'.  Suits a 32mm handle.
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2015, 18:07 »
Hello Stavr, yes they have had steel inserts and the last had a timber insert 30cm.
I have a Stavr what handle would u recommend ?  I was considering aluminium, timber ??
I recommend fiberglass pipe plug strengthened.

where there is a solid hardwood ash - ash handle, you can use (I still love only the wooden handle of ash impregnated with paraffin, although he had all kinds of carbon fiber and the tube too.)

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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2015, 02:33 »
Hi All,  I have settled on a solid fibreglass handle from a JLS shovel.  I have bought the shovel $38, but having a devil of a time getting the head off (its well made ! ha ha) .  Definitely heavier than the hollow shafts with steel or timber inserts.
Of interest getting the broken off timber insert from inside the Stavr steel sleeve took a lot of work.  Lots of drilling and a small chisel.  Have to get some good finds to pay the handle off.  The missus has commented on the number of tools missing handles in the back yard, oops.
One lesson I have learnt is don't dig as far as the scoop will go, the handles are not as good as the stainless scoop.
Carbon fibre handle, uhmm.....maybe for Christmas.    Thanks all for the feedback.   Cheers
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2015, 13:59 »
Good to see input from different people with different idea and experiences on the same subject at the same thread.

Solid fiberglass handle sound good, perhaps don't blame the handle if it brake. ;D

Sweet More, Carbon fibre is wishful thinking, now we start looking at insurance  ??? ........... and painting it  :o  is a no-no.

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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2015, 19:56 »
Never broken or bent a handle yet in eight years of water detecting, I have two scoops, same digging principle, only handles are different. One has a 90 deg end , the other is straight, wall thickness is approx. 2mm ally tube. Pictures of straight handle some where is archives...
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Re: Scoop Handles.
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2016, 20:25 »
my carbon travel handle 32mm  = 1 1/4 "
carbon fiber reinforced up to 4 mm in load areas

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