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After a lot of Internet browsing I'm thinking of purchasing a Bounty Hunter Tracker IV as my first MD. Always wanted a MD as a kid and now I'm in my 50's, it's time for a second childhood that includes some of the stuff I missed out on the first time.

As part of trying to get the most info and best prices, I came across this claim posted on an Australian MD website seller and am curious as to whether members here think this is true or crap:


"All Bounty Hunter metal detectors imported by us as the sole Australasian Distributor are specially re-calibrated only by us for AUSTRALIAN conditions.

The detector's Ground Balance used to null highly iron-mineralized ground has been re-modified for better depth and response to all targets eliminating false signals.   Also .... the Discrimination settings have been re-calibrated for Australian coinage. "

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I see the info on this site.
http://www.treasureenterprises.com/metal%20detectors/metal%20detectors%20&%20accessories/bounty_hunter.htm
A few members have started with the BH units but most have upgraded. Someone will be able to comment on your question.
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Hi.
I started with a Bounty Hunter Quick-Draw II, and never had any issues with ground balance on normal soils.
Saying that though, I did have some weird things happen on a local beach. I'd get a signal, but it was really erratic. It would give me a low tone left to right, and a mid or high tone if I turned 90 degrees. When I dug down, I would find a thin layer of black sand. Not sure what it was, and I only ever found small hand sized pockets of it, but it was the only odd thing that used to detect like that.

The Bounty Hunter range seem like decent entry level machines. I bought mine around 6 or 7 years ago, so things may have changed, but I wouldn't class them as having a high build quality. You have to be very careful when changing batteries, or you can easily break the wires. Also, I found I had to disconnect both 9v batteries when I wasn't going to use it for a day or two or they would go flat and even leak. Luckily I had the detector stored upright so the stuff that leaked ran out, not into the guts of the box.

My Quick-Draw II was really poorly balanced. They aren't really heavy, but if you have any sort of shoulder issues, you will feel it after an hour or two of swinging one of these. While my current detector is a lot heavier, it is far better balanced and I can use it for most of the day without any problem, and I have a lot of shoulder and upper back issues.

Still, its been a few years since I bought mine and they may have changed/improved. You really need to decide how serious you are about getting into detecting, and what you can afford to outlay right at the start. The Bounty Hunter machines definitely pick up the buried targets, as I pulled several bucket loads of rusted iron and junk out of my yard when I first got it.

The thing is though, do you really need to use discrimination? In effect, all you are doing is filtering out some signals.
As much as I'd like to believe they have calibrated them for Australian coins, I can't see how it would be possible. They may have made a new face plate that shows Aus coins instead of the one with nickels and dimes that mine has, but that is still a rough guide. If you read the display and it says it is a ring-pull and you decide not to dig it, you could actually be missing out on a shilling or other coin. There is a lot of overlap. If you have a chance, look up the list posted in the Minelab CTX 3030 section that lists a lot of signal numbers and what they were found to be. You will see a lot of places where similar numbers were found to be very different things.

As to tuning for Australian ground conditions, I also don't see this as being likely. We have such a huge range of soil types, ages and conditions across the country that there is no way one setting could handle them all. I am pretty sure that the Bounty Hunter detectors have a built in auto ground balance anyway. Been a while since I read the book.

As an entry level machine, the price is ok. I'd buy one of these before touching one of the eBay specials. If you do go ahead and order one, I suggest you also get a spare coil cover. They are only a few dollars and stop you scuffing and chipping your coil. Just remember to take it off and clean it out occasionally. I also suggest you get yourself a good pin-pointer. They really make it a lot easier. I can't recommend one brand or model over another yet, as I am in the process of deciding on a new one for myself. I got the Vibra-Probe when I bought my Bounty Hunter and it was ok, but without the sound and with it having such a big sensing tip, it is hard to get really close.

As for other gear, you can get a lot of different trowels and small spades at places like Bunnings that will do the job until you decide whether you want to get more involved with detecting. I bought a couple of trowels, all under $10 each, and am learning to cut neat plugs so it doesn't look like a mad rabbit has been building a block of units in the parks. Some day I may look at the specialised tools like the Leche tool, but at $150+, I'd really want to be sure I was going to be doing a lot of detecting.

Not sure where you are in the state, but if you're anywhere along the NW coast, let me know and I'll bring my Quick-Draw over so you can have a play and see what you think. If you are in other parts of the state, I'm sure there are others down here who are closer and would be happy to meet up for a bit of a play.

Greg.
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I see the info on this site.
http://www.treasureenterprises.com/metal%20detectors/metal%20detectors%20&%20accessories/bounty_hunter.htm
A few members have started with the BH units but most have upgraded. Someone will be able to comment on your question.
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Hi.
I started with a Bounty Hunter Quick-Draw II, and never had any issues with ground balance on normal soils.
Saying that though, I did have some weird things happen on a local beach. I'd get a signal, but it was really erratic. It would give me a low tone left to right, and a mid or high tone if I turned 90 degrees. When I dug down, I would find a thin layer of black sand. Not sure what it was, and I only ever found small hand sized pockets of it, but it was the only odd thing that used to detect like that.

The Bounty Hunter range seem like decent entry level machines. I bought mine around 6 or 7 years ago, so things may have changed, but I wouldn't class them as having a high build quality. You have to be very careful when changing batteries, or you can easily break the wires. Also, I found I had to disconnect both 9v batteries when I wasn't going to use it for a day or two or they would go flat and even leak. Luckily I had the detector stored upright so the stuff that leaked ran out, not into the guts of the box.

My Quick-Draw II was really poorly balanced. They aren't really heavy, but if you have any sort of shoulder issues, you will feel it after an hour or two of swinging one of these. While my current detector is a lot heavier, it is far better balanced and I can use it for most of the day without any problem, and I have a lot of shoulder and upper back issues.

Still, its been a few years since I bought mine and they may have changed/improved. You really need to decide how serious you are about getting into detecting, and what you can afford to outlay right at the start. The Bounty Hunter machines definitely pick up the buried targets, as I pulled several bucket loads of rusted iron and junk out of my yard when I first got it.

The thing is though, do you really need to use discrimination? In effect, all you are doing is filtering out some signals.
As much as I'd like to believe they have calibrated them for Australian coins, I can't see how it would be possible. They may have made a new face plate that shows Aus coins instead of the one with nickels and dimes that mine has, but that is still a rough guide. If you read the display and it says it is a ring-pull and you decide not to dig it, you could actually be missing out on a shilling or other coin. There is a lot of overlap. If you have a chance, look up the list posted in the Minelab CTX 3030 section that lists a lot of signal numbers and what they were found to be. You will see a lot of places where similar numbers were found to be very different things.

As to tuning for Australian ground conditions, I also don't see this as being likely. We have such a huge range of soil types, ages and conditions across the country that there is no way one setting could handle them all. I am pretty sure that the Bounty Hunter detectors have a built in auto ground balance anyway. Been a while since I read the book.

As an entry level machine, the price is ok. I'd buy one of these before touching one of the eBay specials. If you do go ahead and order one, I suggest you also get a spare coil cover. They are only a few dollars and stop you scuffing and chipping your coil. Just remember to take it off and clean it out occasionally. I also suggest you get yourself a good pin-pointer. They really make it a lot easier. I can't recommend one brand or model over another yet, as I am in the process of deciding on a new one for myself. I got the Vibra-Probe when I bought my Bounty Hunter and it was ok, but without the sound and with it having such a big sensing tip, it is hard to get really close.

As for other gear, you can get a lot of different trowels and small spades at places like Bunnings that will do the job until you decide whether you want to get more involved with detecting. I bought a couple of trowels, all under $10 each, and am learning to cut neat plugs so it doesn't look like a mad rabbit has been building a block of units in the parks. Some day I may look at the specialised tools like the Leche tool, but at $150+, I'd really want to be sure I was going to be doing a lot of detecting.

Not sure where you are in the state, but if you're anywhere along the NW coast, let me know and I'll bring my Quick-Draw over so you can have a play and see what you think. If you are in other parts of the state, I'm sure there are others down here who are closer and would be happy to meet up for a bit of a play.

Greg.

Thank you Greg for taking the time to provide such a comprehensive response. My early years were spent on the north west, just out of Sheffield, now live in Hobart. In fact, the prompt to get my interest rekindled in obtaining a MD was that I was visiting Devils Gate dam a few months back and saw a guy swinging his MD around the picnic area there. Wasn't you was it?
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Ha, no, not me.
I'm up at Wesley Vale and have only been out locally a few times since I got back into detecting.
I've mainly been detecting along local beaches, as the digging is easy and I don't have to worry about unsightly holes, while I learn how to use my new detector. I have a few really old house sites and 2 school sites to check out when I get some free time, but it's been hectic recently.

If you aren't in a huge rush, keep an eye on the For Sale area of the forum as people occasionally upgrade and move their old detectors on.

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Howdy,
I started out with the Tracker IV and loved it. I didn't have any issues with the build though like most detectors the battery covers are a pain :D . I think I posted a document in the BH section of the forum before Clegy took over . Will see if it is still there and if not re-post. . I also had a 3300 until it got stolen and that also was a good little detector. With the Tracker once you learn where on the discrim certain coins etc are you can be quite accurate about what you dig.
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Found it http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/index.php?topic=11384.0
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 20:11 by Tasrog »
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Welcome to the forum Tassie

       Looks like some good advice there from some fellow Taswegians ...!

     Thanks Ravvin & Tasrog
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Howdy,
I started out with the Tracker IV and loved it. I didn't have any issues with the build though like most detectors the battery covers are a pain :D . I think I posted a document in the BH section of the forum before Clegy took over . Will see if it is still there and if not re-post. . I also had a 3300 until it got stolen and that also was a good little detector. With the Tracker once you learn where on the discrim certain coins etc are you can be quite accurate about what you dig.
Roger

Found it http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/index.php?topic=11384.0

Thanks roger! Very informative reading. Will re-read when Tracker arrives, due early September.

Am I right in assuming rechargeables are too low in voltage to use on the Tracker?
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Rechargeable s are fine but of course won't last as long. Coles have alkaline 9v at about 2 for $4.50 which are almost as good as energisers. I use rechargeable batteries in my F5  and they are fine. They will die more suddenly than Alkaline as well.
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Thanks Roger, didn't realise Coles had their own branded batteries. I do recall the 'Embassy' brand from a couple of years back though. :)
Any other tips for a newcomer? Actually, if detecting on loose beach sand, do you use a sand filter [not sure of the technical name] and where do you obtain them?
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Hi Tassie,
Welcome to the forum from another Tassie beepest; You can use maha Powerex  Rechargeable 9.6 v. 230 mAh.  batteries in your detector. They are not 8.4 v found in other brands. They have a very low self discharge retaining 85 % of their charge for up to a year. Actual voltage is slightly higher than standard 9v. batteries. Rechargeble up to a 1000 times. An alkaline 9v battery will cost you say $5 for the price of  4 alkaline batteries you can buy a more powerful 9.6 nimh battery.
After 10 uses you have saved $30. after 100 you have saved $ 480.  after 1000  uses you have saved $4980
I use these in  my p.i. pistol probe pinpointer & eneloop in my Whites v3i  detector and just dont buy batteries.
The Maha batteries are available from PROTOG  17-19 Mckeon rd. Mitcham. Vic. 8822.2248

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Thanks Roger, didn't realise Coles had their own branded batteries. I do recall the 'Embassy' brand from a couple of years back though. :)
Any other tips for a newcomer? Actually, if detecting on loose beach sand, do you use a sand filter [not sure of the technical name] and where do you obtain them?

Scoop is what I think you are trying to say :D . Depends how serious and flexible you are . My first one was just a plastic scoop from a hardware store with the holes in it drilled by me.  I made them as big as I could without letting a 3d  ( smallest coin I know of) fall through.
I now have a stainless steel brute made by a memeber who no longer makes them I think. On a shovel handle which means I don't have to bend but is quite a physical exercise which has nothing to do with my age ;)

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Scoop is what I think you are trying to say :D . Depends how serious and flexible you are . My first one was just a plastic scoop from a hardware store with the holes in it drilled by me.  I made them as big as I could without letting a 3d  ( smallest coin I know of) fall through.
I now have a stainless steel brute made by a memeber who no longer makes them I think. On a shovel handle which means I don't have to bend but is quite a physical exercise which has nothing to do with my age ;) .

Thank you, useful info as always!
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