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Badges, Buttons and Buckles (not Cricket Buckles)
« on: February 07, 2012, 17:38 »
Hi all.
I've asked the mods if i could start a sticky thread around badges and buttons.
Here you can post pictures of different badges and buttons, sort of a referance thread.
So i'll start with a few that i have found while metal detecting.

The first one is from an army transport company.
Not sure what the next one is, maybe an army officer.
Next is rising sun badge for slouch hat.
Next is a 1919 victory badge. 1.6 million were made for school children.

Linkback: http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/index.php?topic=9231.0
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Re: Badges and buttons
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 17:43 »
the next one is boy scouts badge.
next is lancashire fusiliers thanks jarhead :)
a WW1 returned armed forces badge
next is a RAAF sterling silver badge mounted on a hand made silver plane.
and a scout button.

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Re: Badges and buttons
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 18:04 »
Next is a shoulder rising sun badge.
and a australia badge.
Next a US army quartermasters branch insignia badge thanks again to jarhead :)
another type of RAAF badge.
next is another us badge someone might know it

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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 18:36 »
Perg the crown is a lovely find it is a
Australian Army Officers imperial crown WW2 rank badge
Ranks from major to general including Major general, some history :) am i allowed to put some up ?
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Re: Badges and buttons
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 18:47 »
hi max any info is more than welcome this is what this thread is all about to help others id what they have found  :)

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Re: Badges and buttons
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 19:35 »
Next i have a few types of buttons 4 different size australian army buttons and a navy button.
also some sort of officers badge.

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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 19:36 »
Next is a shoulder rising sun badge.
and a australia badge.
Next a US army quartermasters branch insignia badge thanks again to jarhead :)
another type of RAAF badge.
next is another us badge someone might know it

the last one is a us army calvary branch insignia.  from where you were digging i would say ww2
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 23:19 »
Here are some Australian and British army qualification badges. You can see the drivers badge bottom left and Purgatori's broken S badge at the top. I am scratching my head to remember what the S stands for. Surveyor?. The crossed flags are for Signaller. Pretty sure the crown in Purgatori's photo is one of these too.

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Re: Badges and buttons
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 23:23 »
Could S stand for Sapper?


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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 14:13 »
No, not Sapper sorry. A Sapper is a Private in the Corps of Engineers and identified with an RAE hat badge and RAE shoulder titles with no rank stripes.
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Re: Badges and buttons
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2012, 08:48 »
Here is a link to pics of lotsa buttons, this is where i found info on (BEST RING EDGE) buttons used for trousers and suspenders.

http://silversimon.piczo.com/?g=39870591&cr=2

This link has pics of Military buttons badges and medals.

http://www.grantsmilitaria.com/militariaphotos/militaria_images.asp?key=340

hope that helps someone
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« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2012, 12:32 »
Purgatory;

That boy scout badge is really a badge honouring Baden Powell the founder of the boy scouts. Was a former scout myself back in the day. Baden powell  centenial of his birth apparently. hope this helps.

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2012, 20:16 »
Found this button at the beach, thought maybe a navy button, does anyone know ?
There seems to be some confusion about this button so will post what i have found for others to peruse.
1/ Britain's Merchant Navy
Generic Design Issue
In use 1900 's onwards

http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/navy%20buttons.htm

According to the above site the information on this button is as follows -

At first, buttons consisted of white metal, usually with a rose in the centre.

In 1774 a foul anchor surrounded by rope edging took the place of the rose and in 1787 the same device with the addition of a wreath of laurel leaves was adopted for Admirals. When the Merchant Navy started to use the foul anchor device, a crown was added for all naval officers in 1812. The same basic design remains in use today.

Iv'e also been informed this same button was worn by US Marines in WWII, the site it came from had US Marines & Australian Soldiers doing amphibious & commando training,(7th Amphibious Training Centre under US Naval command), In the eight months from August 1942 to March 1943, approximately 25 thousand Australian and American troops trained in this area.
pics of US Marine buttons on link below -
http://www.dargate.com/cat/260/images/260cat.html

However the site has been in use since at least 1870 and possibly as early as 1820, it was surveyed for farming in 1868, there was a huge timber industry in the area (Red & White Cedar) as well as Sugar Cane and Cotton Plantations a part of the local history that isn't celebrated probably due to the slave trade for the plantations.

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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2012, 20:28 »
hi all heres a few of the one piece buttons i have dug in the last 6 months , will post the larger 2 piece buttons later

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 16:42 »
Eljay

as quoted -  Iv'e also been informed this same button was worn by US Marines in WWII, the site it came from had US Marines & Australian Soldiers doing amphibious & commando training,(7th Amphibious Training Centre under US Naval command), In the eight months from August 1942 to March 1943, approximately 25 thousand Australian and American troops trained in this area.
pics of US Marine buttons on link below -


mate dont know where you got this info from but it's totally wrong.  no Marine in WW2 ever wore a US Navy button.  The Marine button was and still is an eagle with a fouled anchor.  For a US Marine to wear a Navy button would be embarrassing and  demeaning.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2012, 19:05 »
Jarhead, can you put up a picture.Just wondering what the fouled anchor button looked like.

Rwork

A number of members have recently found Marine buttons in Brisbane.  The link has 2 that Xavier found on 23 Feb 12.  They are behind the gold us army button.  The subject is called golden eagle.

http://forum.kimbucktwo.com/index.php/topic,9542.0.html

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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2012, 22:04 »
Gday Purgs.

Just saw this thread
that crown badge is a British Officers badge
sorry to say they are fairly common mate
 ... maybe not a common find in Australia though  :D ;)
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2012, 09:26 »
Perhaps Jarhead you need to read the whole post and note the reference, http://dargate.com/ an american auction company, 326 Munson Avenue  McKees Rocks, PA 15136, United States, maybe their experts got it wrong, why don't you go tell them.
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2012, 14:05 »
Perhaps Jarhead you need to read the whole post and note the reference, http://dargate.com/ an american auction company, 326 Munson Avenue  McKees Rocks, PA 15136, United States, maybe their experts got it wrong, why don't you go tell them.

they did not get it wrong or did i.  have a look in your photo of the top two buttons. Those are Marine ones (just like the ones xavier found in my link), the others are 1800 era US Navy and similar to the one you intially posted.  there is a mix there.

having spent 8 years of my life as a combat Marine (1st gulf war, panama invasion and somalia) and studying everything in  Marine history I do know a bit better than some 'militaria' want a be's that only read about history.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2012, 15:09 »
Very interesting replies. There is no name on the back of  eljays. . Perhaps its a childs button..
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2012, 22:43 »
hi all  heres a few 2 piece buttons found in resent times

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 18:44 »
1st Australian Horse tunic button  - NSW militia Boer War



(Just trying an experiment with the button contrast Rwork)
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2012, 19:11 »
some of my buttons
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2012, 21:23 »
heres afew victorian s buttons

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French , military engineers button , Crimean war
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