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Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« on: December 04, 2017, 07:27 »
Looking to buy a detector for beach and water,but after reading a lot of bad reviews and issues with Excalibur,now looking at other options-anyone used a Garrett Sea Hunter? These are a bit better priced than the other.

Thanks for any pointers.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2017, 09:13 »
Sorry mate but Excal, are you diving on tanks?
Garrett is PI where excal is BBS, issues are caused in both machines through lack of maintenance. 
Once you learn how to use an Excal correctly you will be very happy, otherwise get used to digging very large holes very often.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2017, 11:02 »
Have both and if you can afford it get the Excalibur.
Sea hunter is good but the Excalibur is much more.
And yes you will dig a lot more holes with the Sea Hunter.
Get a good scoop no mater what you get.
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2017, 14:44 »
Have both and if you can afford it get the Excalibur.
Sea hunter is good but the Excalibur is much more.
And yes you will dig a lot more holes with the Sea Hunter.
Get a good scoop no mater what you get.


Thanks all. Yes I have ordered one of theose Ukraniane scoops with the hexagonal holes,and will add wooden handle when it arrives,they may appear expensive-but they look very well made and well worth that outlay.
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2017, 15:23 »
Have that scoop, well worth the $.
Get a cheap fiberglass handled shovel it will be cheaper than a timber handle alone, go figure.
Drill or grind out rivets, add a timber dowel or broom stick handle if the fiberglass is hollow.
If needed sleeve the handle with retic pipe to fit the socket and screw to fix it all together.
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2017, 15:53 »
Have that scoop, well worth the $.
Get a cheap fiberglass handled shovel it will be cheaper than a timber handle alone, go figure.
Drill or grind out rivets, add a timber dowel or broom stick handle if the fiberglass is hollow.
If needed sleeve the handle with retic pipe to fit the socket and screw to fix it all together.
ok-was just going to a good quality wooden one,or make a good wooden one.
Where do you get these fiberglass handles you mention? Bunnings? or other hardware outlet?
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2017, 16:08 »
Bunnings 32mm Trojan Rake...  Works a treat.
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2017, 16:25 »
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2017, 15:57 »
Unless you want to dig lots of holes in the dry and wet sand then best stick with the Excalibur.  The Garrett Sea Hunter which is a pulse machine will drive you nuts on the beach.  It is good if you are diving and using it where there is less junk but not as a go to every day machine.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2017, 19:15 »
Hi darter,I would go with the sea hunter, the Excaluber has some issues with it,I dive with the sea hunter great m/d built like a tank.On the beach wet or dry sand you dig everything so the Excaluber hasn't any advantage only a higher price tag.
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2017, 14:42 »
Hi darter,I would go with the sea hunter, the Excaluber has some issues with it,I dive with the sea hunter great m/d built like a tank.On the beach wet or dry sand you dig everything so the Excaluber hasn't any advantage only a higher price tag.
Hi Mate..Would like to know what those issues with the Excalibur are.  I have had two now and swear by them.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2017, 21:03 »
Hi, do some research and you will know.Cheers
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2017, 22:04 »
Hi, do some research and you will know.Cheers
What? You made the statement.  I did research before mine and, in the main, reviews were positive.  What did I miss?
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2017, 23:41 »
I would also like to know of these issues, I have owned mine for years now without a problem. Don’t make statements about a product without backing your argument. We have provided honest advice from years of experience using the product.
For a new person to beach hunting a PI is a big step, and would discourage many digging so many trash targets.
I don’t pretend to know the inside outs on PI beach detecting but I do know about the Excal.
My finds over the years can attest to that along with the many on here who use the machine both in and out of the water.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2017, 00:15 »
Every machine has Pros and Cons and SOME times it is the USER...

Excal is a Great Salt Water machine...  Shaft and other minor changes if you intend to dive with it; dry and wet sand = good to go.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2017, 08:13 »
Its all in the knowledge of being  part of any detector you use. The excalibur is a excellent detector the only thing you need to do is send it back to Minelab every 12 months to have it put through a tank and pressurised just to make sure the o rings are not faulty. Some will say i never have sent mine back but for just piece of mind you know its all ok for another 12 months.


If you do settle on the excalibur if you want the most out of it in depth use pinpoint mode  but with only the threshold volume 0. When you search with threshold you can gain several inches as it is deeper at looking at soil only. Any metal objects will give a break in the threshold. Then turn the volume up full and see if you get a target response. No response or a broken signal dig. It is a deep target.


Best of luck with what ever you use but i would just like to have the edge in depth with the p.i.
You can go home and ponder that you have given what ever area you have detected your very best shot.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2017, 11:16 »
A pressure test is only a 1/2 job....

Best is a Vacuum as it then actually simulates the external forces and the inner o-rings move and compress - Also air will go; where fluid will not.

Thus a special end-cap (replace headphone end) with special fitting to allow a Vacuum to be applied and Gauge and then lock and check over a few min.  Means even the slightest breach will be detected. Vacuum is also easier to manage and perform...   

If I have any questions on leaking; I NOW use a Vacuum gauge as I have been caught befor..  And not with the shaft o-rings but the EndCap o-rings...  Same stated size but the Tolerance was the issue.  I had some that were on the smaller end of specs and these failed...  NOT GOOD.
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2017, 12:18 »
A question for you AngerManagement, Has the new Excaliburs still got 14 o rings.

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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2017, 13:08 »
A question for you AngerManagement, Has the new Excaliburs still got 14 o rings.

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What new Excal....   Tell us MORE 

1000/ II all have 18 0 - rings in total and a rubber seal etc on the battery plug.  Can not recall the last 800 I may have worked on but sure that had 18 as well.
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2017, 20:09 »
O my god its got more chances to leak than a sieve.:D
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2017, 20:48 »
I do not understand your logic...

OR where you got 14 from...

5 knobs and  3 sets of orings -  Only ever fail if someone smashed a knob = Knob Guard

1 x O ring for each end cap  ( 3 end caps in total) -  Again, usually only leak if there has been damage or fitted incorrectly by a user.

Then again some users will break any thing...
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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2017, 06:31 »
Then again some users will break any thing...... You took the words right out of my mouth....

I have  been with some rugged users over 40 years of detecting and in that time i have only broke an ear off a exterra 70 which was a faulty coil and was replaced by Kevin at Minelab.


As for the 14 o rings i lost 2 fingers off each hand which is a little hard when you are counting.:D


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Re: Excalibur or Garrett Sea Hunter
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2017, 08:38 »
Looking to buy a detector for beach and water,but after reading a lot of bad reviews and issues with Excalibur,now looking at other options-anyone used a Garrett Sea Hunter? These are a bit better priced than the other.

Thanks for any pointers.
If you want discrimination WP and great detection depth on/ in saltwater beaches then the Excal is top of the line. I cannot speak in regards to Leaking issues.
Plus you can use it in the parks n gardens.
If you want WP, great detection depth and are a dig it all person then the Sea hunter is very good. The Dual field is better, the ATX is great and has good sensitivity to small jewellery items, the Sand Shark is middle of the road, the Infinium is great but might test your patience, The CZ21 and Beach hunter are very good dual frequency machines. The whites TDI is an excellent beach and gold field machine.
Just decide. Do you want discrimination and versatility or do you want a great find everything at extreme depth machine. orrrrrr just get a Gold Bug pro with an 11 inch DD. It will find tiny to large at the beach from the dry to the water line but not WP......Good luck deciding. ???
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