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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2016, 18:59 »
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2016, 19:15 »
If the headphones go flat can they be recharged from a car outlet and how long does it take?
Just to take the load off Tony have a look here Ray, it is part of the faq for the Deus.  http://www.xpmetaldetectorsamericas.com/faq-accessories
From flat the manual says headphones take 3 hours and there is a car outlet charger shown in the accessory's part of the manual.

( I put Johns link into the Dues posts under FAQ. Rwork)
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #52 on: August 26, 2016, 20:23 »
Give it heaps tomorrow Tony .. I hope you find a few Cricket Buckles and maybe 1 or  3  Sovereigns.. I will listen for that throaty  exhaust ;D   Lex

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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #53 on: August 26, 2016, 20:31 »
Cheers for keeping the thread going Tony. I am seriously considering the Deus as my next major detector purchase and I await your evaluations with interest. 
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2016, 20:51 »
'An Unbiased Review'. I welcome any 'review' on the Deus ... not sure that after spending over $2300 on buying one, you have already shown that your are biased. Just a thought and NOT an attempt to hi-jack your thread. :-)
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2016, 06:14 »
'An Unbiased Review'. I welcome any 'review' on the Deus ... not sure that after spending over $2300 on buying one, you have already shown that your are biased. Just a thought and NOT an attempt to hi-jack your thread. :-)

I have a 3030 as well, and i gave that a few savoury choice words about a few things i didnt like about it. I call a spade a spade so no bias here, if it shines i will let you  know, if its that brown colour you will hear all about that as well.

I spend good money on all my detectors, as i do on my guitars, i have expensive guitars i detest and cheap ones i love, if it works for me it works, if not i sell it.

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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2016, 06:22 »
Cheers for keeping the thread going Tony. I am seriously considering the Deus as my next major detector purchase and I await your evaluations with interest.
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Thanks mate see if i can dig out a few of its good and bad points, i am pretty sure its a capable detector, (i have researched them for over 4 years), i just havent used it yet, give me a few hours and i will be in the field ;D .

Give it heaps tomorrow Tony .. I hope you find a few Cricket Buckles and maybe 1 or  3  Sovereigns.. I will listen for that throaty  exhaust ;D   Lex

I have pulled some nice stuff out of where i am going,but never a Sov or a buckle :(

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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2016, 07:11 »
Tony I will PM you but would like to apologise for any comments I have made to offend.  I would really like to see a comparison using the machines by someone I trust and know would provide unbiased comments and you are one I would respect and appreciate an opinion from.  I only mentioned  Mark because he is another.    I will not post any further comments to impede your comparison but  expect some heated comments on any comparison post.

Just one point, i dont mind a heated post, i can giver as good as i get, but i am not doing comparisons here per se, i am doing a review on the Deus, not the CTX.  If i find a stand out bug between the 2 either which way, i will raise the topic, but having had the CTX nearly 5 years and the Deus a week, i dont think any hard core comparison at this stage would be really warranted. also there is enough threads with people punching on over different machines.

At this stage they both deploy their shafts easily :o

I had a bobcat that did great small excavation work and site clean ups, and a big Komatsu excavator for deep trenching, so its a horses for courses thing with me.
 

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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2016, 09:10 »
Call yourself a reviewer and then state you haven't used it yet.... gawd your slack, and don't give me excuses about being busy or crook. :D  . Get off your butt and get out there boy errm man.
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2016, 10:36 »
My other hobby, building guitars and winding pickups
Now I'm truly impressed!

Back to the detecting, (apologies for going off topic) I've also dabbled in the use of the XP, and find that because of the sheer number of customisable settings, the way the machine feels (and sounds) can be remarkably different.  That's not to say that one setting will necessarily locate or not locate a target, but the the 'feel' is very different.

For example, when I first started out, before tweaking the settings, on the beach I preferred to use the Wet Sand mode on the dry sand, rather than the Dry Sand mode.  Why, because it offers more a 'analogue' sound rather than the on/off chattery  sound in Dry Sand mode.  With tweaking the settings, I can customise the feel of the machine, yet still set up for maximum capability.


Hopefully, I'm not hijacking your thread too much, so back to you Tony, for your review.

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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2016, 14:19 »
Call yourself a reviewer and then state you haven't used it yet.... gawd your slack, and don't give me excuses about being busy or crook. :D  . Get off your butt and get out there boy errm man.
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Just put a productive 4 hours in, hopefully i am over being crook, but busy is another thing.

Now I'm truly impressed!

Back to the detecting, (apologies for going off topic) I've also dabbled in the use of the XP, and find that because of the sheer number of customisable settings, the way the machine feels (and sounds) can be remarkably different.  That's not to say that one setting will necessarily locate or not locate a target, but the the 'feel' is very different.

For example, when I first started out, before tweaking the settings, on the beach I preferred to use the Wet Sand mode on the dry sand, rather than the Dry Sand mode.  Why, because it offers more a 'analogue' sound rather than the on/off chattery  sound in Dry Sand mode.  With tweaking the settings, I can customise the feel of the machine, yet still set up for maximum capability.


Hopefully, I'm not hijacking your thread too much, so back to you Tony, for your review.

Cheers,
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No not off topic mate, go your hardest.

I wont be using it on the beach at this stage, but that doesnt mean i wont mess with the beach settings. I went through all the starter programs today, and 2 of them i will modifying to suit myself, and when i get to know the machine a little better i will make more changes. For now i was impressed with it, it didnt kick any other machine out of the park, but it did it job in tough conditions, of which i will have more to say later.

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« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2016, 16:05 »
Day1: 4 straight hours, my 1st thoughts:
I dont have any elbow or shoulder pain, which usually after about 3 hours these days sends me home, but i was knackered after 4 hours from so much digging, yes i dug alot of holes. The unit is very compact and very light, this is a huge + for me.

I didnt use the headphones at first, the machine, although it has no volume control, is loud enough. I  used to use headphones all the time on my AT Pro because it wasn't loud enough, the CTX has volume control so i dont wear headphones with it, i dont like Minelab headphones anyway, so i dont use them on any of my Minelab machines. The WS5 headphones later in the day proved to be very comfortable with a nice audio sound, they would want to be for the price, these have a top end market price tag, i was lucky to only have to pay a small amount to upgrade from WS4's and from a 9" to 11" coil, 11" coils seem to be where i like them, not too big not too small.

I was amazed at the response over multiple targets, i thought the AT Pro had this in the bag, but this units recovery is very fast, i had to stop and gather my thoughts for awhile there, it overwhelmed me a little.

I hunted with factory standard settings and without much knowledge of the machine, but quickly learnt a few things, i liked relic and basic 1, so that gives me a launch pad to work on some of my own settings.

Some of the tones are a bit ordinary, one sounds like a toy being squeezed, but overall they were ok but not fantastic, hoping i can adjust all this.

I didnt use pinpoint (it sounds like the ducks old machine, bloody horrible) but i hit every target by just doing a quick grid on it with the coil, works a treat.

I have a few things to clean up, and i will post some pics later.


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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2016, 19:08 »
Day1: 4 straight hours, my 1st thoughts:
I dont have any elbow or shoulder pain, which usually after about 3 hours these days sends me home, but i was knackered after 4 hours from so much digging, yes i dug alot of holes. The unit is very compact and very light, this is a huge + for me.

I didnt use the headphones at first, the machine, although it has no volume control, is loud enough. I  used to use headphones all the time on my AT Pro because it wasn't loud enough, the CTX has volume control so i dont wear headphones with it, i dont like Minelab headphones anyway, so i dont use them on any of my Minelab machines. The WS5 headphones later in the day proved to be very comfortable with a nice audio sound, they would want to be for the price, these have a top end market price tag, i was lucky to only have to pay a small amount to upgrade from WS4's and from a 9" to 11" coil, 11" coils seem to be where i like them, not too big not too small.

I was amazed at the response over multiple targets, i thought the AT Pro had this in the bag, but this units recovery is very fast, i had to stop and gather my thoughts for awhile there, it overwhelmed me a little.

I hunted with factory standard settings and without much knowledge of the machine, but quickly learnt a few things, i liked relic and basic 1, so that gives me a launch pad to work on some of my own settings.

Some of the tones are a bit ordinary, one sounds like a toy being squeezed, but overall they were ok but not fantastic, hoping i can adjust all this.

I didnt use pinpoint (it sounds like the ducks old machine, bloody horrible) but i hit every target by just doing a quick grid on it with the coil, works a treat.

I have a few things to clean up, and i will post some pics later.

Wait till you customize your own settings that is where the deus is really incredible the basic programs dont do that machine justice .When you start using notch/silencer and reactivity then you will have a grin from ear to ear :).
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2016, 05:15 »
Wait till you customize your own settings that is where the deus is really incredible the basic programs dont do that machine justice .When you start using notch/silencer and reactivity then you will have a grin from ear to ear :).

I will be sitting down with it during the week going over a few things, i did the same with the CTX, went out in stock settings then worked it a few times until i found what i liked, on the CTX i think i use my own silver pattern wide open, beach and a version of it for the goldfields which works well in hot ground, and open relic with some mods on the CTX, so i dont use too many.

A negative on the Deus i discovered early on was when i extended the shaft to 4.5, it had some flex and whip in it, i took it back to 4 and it was good, i am 6ft tall.

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« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2016, 14:34 »
Hard work in the trash but i was suprised how well the machine handled it

1927 Threepence rung out nice amongst the trash

1924 Penny

Edward VII british half penny 1902-1910, i might try and date it later





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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2016, 16:16 »
good to see silver on ya first trip Tony :)
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« Reply #66 on: August 28, 2016, 16:34 »
good to see silver on ya first trip Tony :)

It was a buzz seeing as it was pretty much my 1st target, the second coin target turns out to be a 1906 Britt Half Penny

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« Reply #67 on: August 28, 2016, 17:01 »
the right finds date wise for a sov mate ;D
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« Reply #68 on: August 28, 2016, 17:14 »
the right finds date wise for a sov mate ;D

Best i have seen out of this spot is a groat

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« Reply #69 on: August 28, 2016, 19:32 »
Good to see a few coins already.
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2016, 20:06 »
Couldn't have asked for better start Tony, great stuff. 
If you require extra length in the shaft, there is a longer mid shaft section available which adds 12cm to the current setup.  You will either require a new lower camlock kit and control box holder, or swap over the current gear to the longer shaft.  
The rear armrest is also adjustable, I think there are three different screw holes to adjust back even further if required. 
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2016, 20:41 »
I only have 4 hours swinging my Deus also but it did give me 11 predecimals (2 silver) from an area I have done with two other detectors. I use full tones and like hearing what I call the angry mosquito sound, if it is fainter rather than load it is usually a coin at the spot I was at.
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Re: XP Deus my unbiased review
« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2016, 00:35 »
Tony nothing beats the dues in trash hey it's crazy good and if you just wanna cherry pick more put silencer on 3 and reactivity on 3 and those 1 and 2 dollar coins will come flying out of the ground .
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« Reply #73 on: August 29, 2016, 05:20 »
Couldn't have asked for better start Tony, great stuff.
If you require extra length in the shaft, there is a longer mid shaft section available which adds 12cm to the current setup.  You will either require a new lower camlock kit and control box holder, or swap over the current gear to the longer shaft.  
The rear armrest is also adjustable, I think there are three different screw holes to adjust back even further if required.

I am  lucky that its fine on 4 for me, maybe taller guys may need to upgrade? The arm rest is just fine for me but knowing it adjusts is a good thing.

I only have 4 hours swinging my Deus also but it did give me 11 predecimals (2 silver) from an area I have done with two other detectors. I use full tones and like hearing what I call the angry mosquito sound, if it is fainter rather than load it is usually a coin at the spot I was at.

I got the silver on relic mode and the 2 coppers on Basic1, having read alot more about the machine since using it, i now have made some adjustments to try next time in the same patch. Lots of little things to make it better in the junk heap.

Tony nothing beats the dues in trash hey it's crazy good and if you just wanna cherry pick more put silencer on 3 and reactivity on 3 and those 1 and 2 dollar coins will come flying out of the ground .


The $2 coins i got were on the way out, more in a spot where people sit on rugs etc, than the old section, the coins were screaming at me in relic mode, and were reading 73-75. I am not really a goldie hunter but i dont mind picking a few out ;D



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« Reply #74 on: September 03, 2016, 18:20 »
2nd Hunt with the Deus:


I made a small adjustment to the machine, before i went out to a spot i had been to a few times before, lots of trash but the machine impressed. I stayed in the one setting all day, i think it will become one of my saved settings in future for this type of ground.








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