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Hi All,
I managed to throw together some footage of the Cscope CS4Pi Pulse Induction beach detector over the weekend. I used an older camera as my GoPro has mysteriously disappeared since my daughter went movie making...... So sorry about the Soft focus on the background.
It will give you an idea of how the machine performs on Australian coins at an Aussie beach in sopping wet sand.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWeBTkynu5E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWeBTkynu5E</a>
« Last Edit: December 07, 2016, 16:21 by Clegy »
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Re: Cscope CS4PI Beach metal Detector Australian Video.
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2016, 14:00 »
Nice video Justin, as a 'Beachy'  keen to try that machine .. looks interesting.
Oh one more thing .......  Beach Scoop?
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Re: Cscope CS4PI Beach metal Detector Australian Video.
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2016, 14:18 »
Let me know when your free for a swing mate and we'll take it for a run.
Beach Scoop is on the way. 
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Re: Cscope CS4PI Beach metal Detector Australian Video.
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2016, 16:20 »
Jewellery Test Video completed today.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxsPL9eo65w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxsPL9eo65w</a> 
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Good video.
I used a CS4PI for a while several years back and agree that it is a nice PI for the beaches.
Very easy to use and no instability hassles.
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Pity it's not fully waterproof though. That would make it very desirable to add to the armoury.
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Agreed. That is the only downside worth mentioning that I can recall. aside from the fact that there is a lot of unusable range in the frequency/Pulse control. By that I mean that if you set the Pulse control into the red sectors, performance is degraded on all targets.
The Tesoro Sand Shark would be the next step up I guess. For the price it is a very good detector. Pity we do not have a Tesoro agent in Australia any more.
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Been Playing around a fair bit with this machine now.
Belt mounted is the way to go, the cable is quite long so it doesn't get in the way.
I have a beach scoop now that is stainless steel and I need to carry it on my shoulder or drag it behind as the CS4PI Pings on it on the left of every swing.
Upside is I can dig and retrieve without bending down, so I can now hunt longer.
No discrimination is both good and Bad, I dig a LOT of junk in any hunt. ANYTHING Metal and down to about a foot will Ping enough for you to dig it. A few times in the very wetsand I have had to move half a metric tonne of sand to get the target out of the hole.
Best thing I like is that you just set it and it pretty well does the job in the dry, wet and VERY wet sand. I go to about my knees for depth in water but 99% of the time I run the very wet zone with the cscope.
You can run it silent, but it seems to do best on the edge of being a nutcase. I just wind it up to insanity levels and then slowly back it off until it settles into a kind of wobbly threshold. I get a few false signals but a simple angle change or a slow sweep will most of the time let you know if its a target or not by repeating. No repeat, walk on. 
YES there are Better Pi detectors out there, no Doubt. But at the price it is designed to be added into your kit for the beach days/nights and then you can get out the current machine everywhere else.
For AT/Xterra and other mid to high level VLFS the cscope will blow them away for depth and performance, though like I mentioned you do miss discrimination occasionally.
Thanks for the feedback on them too, it seems there are a few more of them around than I first thought.

Cheers all.
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Have been thinking of grabbing another CS4. They are quick and easy to set up and work well anywhere on the beach.
I do have a Sand Shark which very good but can be rendered near on useless where there is EMI. I do not recall the CS4 being bothered by EMI.
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Clegy & Adrian , i have not got it to the beach yet but had a quick go in dirt , i found it very noisy , any hints on settings & tuning it would be greatly appreciated  :) Gazza 
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Clegy & Adrian , i have not got it to the beach yet but had a quick go in dirt , i found it very noisy , any hints on settings & tuning it would be greatly appreciated  :) Gazza

Sent you a PM it is pretty horrible on land but wait till you get it on the sand.
Just for everyone else, I crank the right knob to the highest frequency, don't know why I just like that tone.

Then crank the left one to the end of the green area and slowly wind it back until the CS4 is quite. I leave it a bit skitty as in not silent. Kinda like threshold but not really.

Normally settles about 12 o'clock on the left dial for me or a bit either way. But I always crank it to the end of the green zone to see what I can get away with.

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Thanks Justin , i got your PM & i will give that a go when i get to a beach , i did find a couple old nails but yes it was very different to what i a used to & am sure it will be great when i work it out on the sand mate ,  Gazza .
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Thanks Justin , i got your PM & i will give that a go when i get to a beach , i did find a couple old nails but yes it was very different to what i a used to & am sure it will be great when i work it out on the sand mate ,  Gazza .

I did a demo for a telstra bloke yesterday that is looking to for something to find phone pit covers when they are covered.
We had a hard time as it was picking up the cables, the fire hydrant cover a metre and a half away, a shopping trolley that was 2 metres away and about a hundred bits of assorted trash like bottle tops etc.

We found the lid, but we found a lot more to go with it too.

I repeated the process with the deus and it took about 10 seconds to do the job, so definitely a beach machine and Have read that the timings are different to a land based PI to allow best performance in salt infested area's.

Not a lot of PI experience and that was something I didn't know and may explain why it's so erratic on land, just not tuned for it?

Might open a thread about PI in general and see what we can find out from the smarter people.

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Yes mate it is very sensitive , it was fighting with my pin pointer , i had to keep moving the detector away so i could use the pointer  , Gazza
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Near on all beach tuned PIs are noisy over land with a bit of iron mineralisation, which is all of Australia.
There is not much you can do to the CS4 that might make it less noisy over inland areas other than trying other pulse rates. You can tune to the lowest pulse rate which may produce less ground response but will also make the detector less responsive to small coins and rings
 Raising or lowering the pulse rate can be used to some degree to help reduce EMI  
The Delay  timing of beach PIs is set to give little or no response to salt and the CS4 is pretty much strictly a salt beach metal detector where it works very well as you will find out for yourself. But not as good for depth as the Sand Shark, Inf, Sea hunter, Dual Field, although it  is good value for the price..
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Thanks Adrian , i am champing at the bit to give it a go  hopefully soooooon  :) Gazza 
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Had to catch up with old friends today & just happened to be on the beach ;)  so managed a quick 1/2 hour on the wet sand ..... so much better :) even found some junk & a solitary well worn 20 cent piece . Can't wait to get a hunt on a popular beach :) . I  managed to loose one of the plastic nuts off the arm rest though :( , Gazza
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HI BrisGazza.
Am wondering what your opinion of the CS4 is now that you have been using it for a while?
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Kind of had expected a few new owner/users and videos by now?
A 10" coil is a good size coil for the beach.
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Watched one of the CS4PI in action for hours yesterday, on one of our popular local beaches.
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Watched one of the CS4PI in action for hours yesterday, on one of our popular local beaches.

What do you reckon?
They have just been changed to an elliptical coil after talking to cscope this week.

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I was the one on the beach with the Cscope CS4PI---and didn't I do well!!  Found a good quality silver ring with gems all round and a lovely silver bracelet, plus sunnies, coins and the usual collection of bottle tops, even found a tiny stainless steel screw.  Did as well as the others who had their expensive machines, so I'm happy.  
The Cscope is a great little machine.  Simple, straight forward, economical beach machine, that can, in certain circumstances also be used on land.  I've used it in an area that has been well searched by others and myself and still found coins, one up to my elbow deep on land, admittedly in sandy soil but no where near a beach!
I have two other, good quality machines, but I'm more than happy to use the Cscope on the beach.
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